Frank Wildhorn: A Discussion- Page 2

[CostumeMistress]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 12:53am

Okay, kiddies, take it to the PMs. We don't care.

[bostonbroadwayfan]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 6:24am

It wasnt the song GOLD I had an issue with it was the overall CD that I thought was awful.
I just don't like Linda Eder doing covers of pop music, and yes Im a big fan of hers.

[WildhornFanatic]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 8:41am

bostonbroadwayfan - Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, that was a very different CD from the rest. I like that CD but it's not my favorite of hers.

[hot_brdwy_diva]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 9:37am

I love Frank Wildhorn musicals. Maybe it's because they are as people have been saying, elementry. KISS. Keep it simple stupid.

I agree that his music is like a romance novel, I always feel guilty that I like his stuff because so many people make him out to be a disaster... but look at the people on this thread that defend him despite the minor flaws... he must be doing something right.

I'm kinda sad that wildhorn and eder split. It seems composers write the best when they have someone to faun over. (ie: ALW and Sarah brightman.)

[bdwybug55]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 10:46am

I am also not a huge Wildhorn fan. I think his music is too simple and uninteresting. I will say that I heard good things about "Waiting for the Moon" and would be interested in seeing that. I will also say that he certainly writes some lovely melodies and some beautiful ballads but I feel his music belongs in the pop world and not in the theatre world.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 10:48am

I just can't listen to his music...I feel like it makes me loose brain cells.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 11:14am

When I first go the J&H album the only thought that came to mind was, "why is this beautiful victorian story being told with second rate pop music". The fact that he cannot or doesn't have the ability to make his scores fit the storys he chooses to tell turns me off to him. I think he is a third rate american version of Lloyd Webber and his "talents" are far better suited for Branson than Broadway.

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 9:49pm

To the Fanatic, the only reason you don't know who I am is because you don't look. You are content with what you know, like looking at the picture from a certain perspective. But the picture is wider and there's much still to be seen... you have to glance across the page and see the other section. It's there, right in front of you, and plenty of people where I am know who I am and exactly what I'm doing

And if you cannot look at the other section, it will look at you - directly in the face - some time soon

VERY soon

EDIT: I don't play games either. I was never ever very good at sport, that's why I love musicals

to the Wardrobe Mistress: look at my icon. Am I a kid? Or just a big fat kid weighing 300 pounds?

Updated On: 11/14/05 at 09:49 PM

[Dollypop]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 10:06pm

Frank Wildhorn is to Musical Theater what paint-by-number is to real art.

Updated On: 11/14/05 at 10:06 PM

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 11/14/05 at 11:09pm

I really liked Jekyll and Hyde when I was... I dunno, ten or eleven. I remember I owned an old concept version of it on cassette with Colm Wilkinson. Didn't change my life or anything. Sometimes it's the material that speaks to you. I mean, I used to listen to Sweeney Todd when I was a little kid, and I thought the music was pretty but found the concept just hilarious and I obviously wasn't getting that much out of Sweeney Todd when I was eight besides some messed up ideas. It's not for nothing that Jekyll and Hyde is such an enduring story. He turned it into a bathos filled musical that has great numbers you can scream around the house to annoy your mom when you're 14 because you want to grow up to be Linda Eder (even though you're boy, but that's another story). And come on, we have to give him props for writing that song towards the end where Jekyll and Hyde sing to each other. It's a neat song. Frank Wildhorn has his just for fun merits. It's candy, like Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

Although I agree that The Civil War was almost completely dreadful, and had maybe one song worth listening to. I was never interested in Pimpernel. And I like the song Gold! but that may be because Linda sings it!

I don't know CostumeMistress, this thread is turning out some great spontaneous cat fights.

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 12:12am

haha

Updated On: 2/17/12 at 12:12 AM

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 1:45am

Please rock, you're just waiting for him to write Highlander:The Musical Adventure.........ugh

[CostumeMistress]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 1:50am

Ronin, it wasn't when I wrote that.

However, it seems that every message topic has about a 20-message limit (give or take a few) before people start attacking each other, usually for the sheer love of the drama.

[twogaab2]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 10:02am

He writes very tuneful, pleasent music. He is just lacking in taste and form. Very little of his music advances his story. For the most part, it tends to stop the story dead in it's tracks for a good song. With the right colaborator, he could create a very good work.

When one goes to one of his shows, if you divorce yourself from the idea of "music advances plot" one can have a passably good time.

Just my opinion, I may be wrong.

[WildhornFanatic]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 10:15am

costumemistress - I was defending myself, not starting a fight. I apologize to everyone for bringing it to the board. Rocknferris and I know each other from the GlobalVision Records Board and he's said some things on there that have built up a bit.

I'll be the bigger man and stop now.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand... Frank's new music from VIENNA is less predictable and "pop" than the rest. I just received a bootleg of FRANK WILDHORN & FRIENDS from a friend and the songs from VIENNA may be better than WAITING FOR THE MOON!
Updated On: 11/15/05 at 10:15 AM

[cbreining2]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 10:18am

I've been a Wildhorn fan since the first time I saw Pimpernel in a local theater - I didn't even know about him before that. I saw Waiting for the Moon twice & it is awesome. also saw Dracula, which totally sucked, especially the way they ended the story. also saw his Evening with Frank Wildhorn, with Rob Evan, etc., and THAT was awesome. Just like when you go to one of those "evening with ALW" concerts, it always amazes me that one person can write so many kinds of music. Is everything he does perfect? no, but as someone said earlier, everything Sondheim or ALW comes up with isn't perfect either. I totally agree that Frank has a bad rep for some reason - the total opposite of Sondheim. I guess I just feel everyone should make up his/her own mind about each individual show - and, btw, isn't that what makes the whole world of the theater so great? "something for everyone" and all that.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 11:48am

I'd rather have root canal work done than listen to a Wildhorn score.

[WildhornFanatic]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 8:10pm

Dollypop, rather than leaving rude remarks, can you please EXPLAIN in a mature manner what it is you don't like about Wildhorn's music.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 8:13pm

His music stops the show dead in its tracks?

How does TITH from J/H stop the show in its tracks ? Ditto for Confrontation from J/H & Into The Fire From Pimpernel

Kindly explain - Thanks

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 11/15/05 at 10:41pm

To the Fanatic, I don't say things to build things up: I speak the truth, as I see it, and nothing but the truth. If you cannot deal with that, or tolerate it, then I suppose that's not my problem.. and you can always vacate to somewhere else or learn to live with it. I won't change my views toward a discussion on your precious board, and I won't change anything for anyone. The reason I've been so happy and (feeling) successufl in mny life is because I never adapted to other people's opinions of me. But anyhoo...

I have no qualms with you personally, just that you don't make me out to seem like something I am not: which I am not: and everything that I say has to be taken into account as the truth I speak at the time. It is not to offend anyone, in any shape or form, because I don't come onto the internet to give people hard time: I simply use it for my amusement and dont really care what anyone could think of my opinions there.It's not real life. It's the internet. And my opinions remain my opinions unless some major change happens in my life on a personal level

Thank you :d

Updated On: 11/15/05 at 10:41 PM

[WildhornFanatic]

Posted: 11/16/05 at 12:50am

Rocknferris - Check your PM.

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 11/16/05 at 1:31am

I sent you a reply