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#1

I have a few questions

I've done quite a bit of research concerning West End and musical theatre universities in London, but I'm afraid I'm still not at the point of knowledge that I'd like to be at. So if anyone has any knowledge of auditiong in West End and how universities can help, conservatories, etc.., please pm me and I'll give you my questions. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!


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#2

re: I have a few questions

There is no such thing as a 'West-End/Musical Theatre University'. Some uni's do musical courses, and some of the drama and music conservatoire's do musical theatre courses (Royal Academy of Music, Mountiview, GSA, Central etc etc).

Why do you need to know these things?

Incidentally, there is a certain amount of snobbery towards graduates from universities going into the theatre as opposed to graduates from conservatoires and specifically musical-theatre based courses- this might be something you could research.


Updated On: 7/6/06 at 05:06 AM

#3

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No no that's what I meant, as in, universities with a musical theatre program. I'm sure that, as you say, there is a different attitude towards conservatory graduates, but I don't think a conservatory is right for me. I want to do musical theatre for my living, but I want to learn other things as well. As far as my research goes, the only university I've found that can do both is Halloway (sp?). On the other hand, a friend of mine who used to study abroad said that in London, musical theatre programs at schools that aren't conservatories aren't really worth the time.
"It's a great feeling of power to be naked in front of people. We're happy to watch actual incredible graphic violence and gore, but as soon as somebody's naked it seems like the public goes a bit bananas about the whole thing."
#4

re: I have a few questions

I went to a University. Not to read MT, but to train as a director, and in my time as a pro director I haven't met the snobbery of which you speak.

I have though seen a lot of snobbery towards people who have gone to a conservatoire for MT.

Why should either side judge?! It all boils down for me to wether you can either do the job, or not!
#5

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SallyBrown, your friend is probably right- looking at programme bios (after all they refer to the people who actually get emplyed), the vast majority come from the conservatoire's- Mountview, Central, GSA, LSMT, ArtsEd etc etc- the proportion from Universities is very small.

Perhaps snobbery was the wrong word- but generally speaking in the profession, you're training may be thought of as less valuable if it was at a university rather than a conservatoire. MT is not a career you can do half-assedly, if you really want to do it, then go all-out, and you probably have the best chance of actually getting jobs (and im sorry, but thats what counts) by going to a conservatoire- even before they see you audition, casting directors will see a conservatoire on your cv and may put you on the 'for audition' pile, whereas someone with the same or similar experience and abilities from a university may get put on the 'no phone call' pile. I was at a talk with Simon Reade (artistic director of the Bristol Old Vic) in November, and he confirmed this. Its definately not fair, but it is certainly a reasonably widespread reality and is something that does go on.

Updated On: 7/7/06 at 11:12 AM

#6

re: I have a few questions

Although....if you want to incorporate other things with your musical theatre training, nearly all of the Music Theatre Colleges (vocational schools) offer a degree programme....although this doesn't neccessarily mean you will do classes in other subjects, but it is a good thing to have/achieve.

I still think that training at one of the vocational colleges is best....particularly in terms of who you will get to meet and be taught by.....Just a thought!
#7

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Never underestimate the power of networking in this profession.
#8

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Now, lifeisacabaret, this is speaking from the London view right? Because it seems as though here in the U.S., conservatories are often looked down upon as opposed to colleges. It's very interesting I think, these differences.

I think my problem really is that I want to go to London after high school more than anything. Of course though, to go overseas I'd need the permission of my parents, and the agreement was that if I go to London it would not be for a conservatory. I'm really all for conservatory experience in London, that is what I want to dedicate my time to, musical theatre. Now at these conservatories, do you know what the average amount of semesters there are required each year? I suppose I could do a conservatory for the year and then during the summer take different classes for things like history at another school program. That's what another friend of mine did, but that was in the U.S. Do they do that in London?

And really, thanks for all this help!
"It's a great feeling of power to be naked in front of people. We're happy to watch actual incredible graphic violence and gore, but as soon as somebody's naked it seems like the public goes a bit bananas about the whole thing."
#9

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Indeed- im in the UK, but have visted NYC often. As ever, there are different view points either side of the pond- and im sure there are exceptions to these views as well.

Ive noticed when ive been in NYC that the majority of performers (from playbill bios) come from a university with a musical theatre program.

Youve also go to bear in mind that the whole education system over here is arranged differently as well.

There are VERY few (in fact, i cant think of any) Uni's that have a specifically musical theatre course. Many have drama or performing arts courses, but if you want a specifically musical theatre-based course, then a conservatoire is the place to go.
#10

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Alright, sounds what I was expecting. Thanks very much for all the help!
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