Idina Menzel- Page 2

[luvWICKED416]

Posted: 10/23/04 at 2:42pm

Yes i think she is great also.... she rocks.

But can we really watch our use of the word "idol"

[insomniak]

Posted: 10/23/04 at 2:58pm

Another sock puppet...

[Plum]

Posted: 10/23/04 at 3:20pm

Why watch the use of the word "idol"? If she looks up to Menzel and aspires to be like her, than Menzel is her idol. Better her than Britney Spears or something.

[bythesword84]

Posted: 10/23/04 at 4:44pm

While I'm not the biggest Wicked fan in the world, I'll have to agree that I found Eden's performance to be better than Idina's.

[LilElphaba]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:06pm

shes my idol too and im proud to show it!! How can someone think Eden is better than Idina?? I mean its Idina's part, no one does it better than the original and she IS the original Elphaba-of course you all know that but i dont think anyone could play the part better than Idina. Wouldnt u think it gets hard doing that part 8 times a week??? singing her lungs out THAT much-of course she isnt at her best ALL the time but wouldnt u think so?
~LIL Elphie

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:10pm

Just because someone is first doesn't mean they are the best.

Idina is fine and dandy, but I am sure that certain current stand-bys who I will not mention can play scenes without having o YELL every line after nessa bites teh dust and can sing the score without resorting tos creeching and yelling..

[LilElphaba]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:21pm

well.....what do u expect?? shes playing a witch lol.i read her bio and she said when she was young and sang her vocal teacher said she was screaming so much that she didnt want her to hurt herself!! lol i understand that but i still think shes the BEST
~LIL Elphie

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:22pm

um.... the whoel point of Wicked is that she's not. and screeming every line does NOta good actress make.

[broadwaybound3]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:26pm

i agree broadwayguy. i mean yes idina is a greta elphaba- but lile- have you seen the show with Eden or Sho in it? if you havent, you cant say that they arent worthy of the part- which both of them are.

[broadwaybound3]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:27pm

you dont have to scream to get the point across- sometimes it is better to have a low intensity to your voice, which i have heard none of from Idina

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:36pm

idina has no subtely in action, expression, or voice. she over plays everything. Yes, the gershwin is a big house, but that is no reason to over do it.

[Speed]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:52pm

When comparing Elphabas, keep this in mind:

Idina helped CREATE the role in SEVERAL workshops and in rehearsals for both San Francisco and New York. How she played the part most likely led both Stephen and Winnie to write the show the way they did. Adlibs of Idina's in early workshops might have made it into the script. Riffs of Idina's might have made it into the score. And a lot of the staging and gestures most likely came from Idina's instincts. On top of all that, the whole CONCEPT of how one PLAYS Elphaba (a role never before seen on stage) was discovered and created by Idina.

So for the rest of time, whenever you see ANYONE play Elphaba, you must give credit to Idina. Part of what Eden, Shoshana, and all future Elphabas do was INVENTED by Idina and will forever be Idina's.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 3:53pm

The Wright brother's invented the airplane, but the people that came after them one uped them in every way.

[Speed]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 4:06pm

Perfect example. The Wright Brothers did the MUCH MORE difficult part which was getting it to work in the first place and all of the people who one upped them had to USE THE WRIGHT BROTHERS most basic concepts (wings, etc) in order to do their work. Updated On: 10/24/04 at 04:06 PM

[TGIF]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 4:16pm

I agree with both SPEED and BroadwayGuy2. Idina created the role of Elphaba just as the Wright Brothers invinted the airplane. Hence, both Idina and the Wright Brothers will be remembered for their creation. However, it is nice and appropriate to acknowledge those who followed and were equally as good if not better.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 5:26pm

Tank you TGIF! I never mean to say Idina should be ignored or anything or thats he didn't doa nything, she originated tehr ole. But SOME people have to realize that other people can and WILL (and HAVE DONE already!!!!!) do it better.

[AidaNYRent]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 5:33pm

Idina is great, love her as Elphie, and don't think she will ever be topped. Her cd "Here" is excellent. Wish it was a little longer though!!

[shira467]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 5:49pm

I've heard all of them, and I think we must face a simple, but undeniable fact:

Nobody's perfect.

Idina has her faults, Eden has her faults, Kristy has her faults, and certainly so does Shoshana.

However, their respective voices and talents overcome any small (or large, depending on your view) snags in their performances otherwise. There is no flawless performer, no matter how much we may believe otherwise.

But let us enjoy the performances anyway, and not just go purely for the joy of negative critique.

[LilElphaba]

Posted: 10/24/04 at 7:22pm

SPEED--u are SO right! The handmovents and everything were created by Idina-like in The Wizard and I- (and i know all the handmovements)

Its just not easy for me (being a HUGE Wicked/Idina fan) to say that someone else could do it better than Idina when Idina actually created it-Same with Kristin Chenoweth. Jennifer Laura Thompson is good but not the same as Kristin-like in POPULAR, if u seen it with Kristin you expect Jennifer to do the same exact thing but its different.

~LIL Elphie<333

Updated On: 10/24/04 at 07:22 PM