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#26

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

I've gone on about my dislike of the lyrics and book ad nauseum (but really it is bad fanfiction. The first Phantom strips the original book to its basics and kinda works IMHO because of how Prince and Bjornson made it all about atmosphere--this goes the route of many of the worst sequels by making a completely WTF, overly complex story. I mean even "side" elements--Giry has been essentially pimping out her daughter to help support the Phantom and poor abused Meg has been driven murderously insane by that? WHAT? We won't even get into the main Phantom Kid storyline.) I do think much of the music is beautiful--yes it's even by ALW standards ridiculously grandiose but in that one respect he found the right tone. And yeah, the Ozzie production looks purdy.

While I can't see this ever touring--how easy would it be to tour the Australian production affordably anyway? This isn't like Australia or Japan where it made a couple of extended stops--to tour North America I think it would have to play many more cities for a shorter amount of time. And in that respect it makes more sense than going to Broadway--play two weeks in Seattle or wherever and you'll get the hardcore Phantom fans and other curious theatre goers there to probably make it do well those two weeks and then quickly pack up and move on to another city before word of mouth and reviews spread a bit like Mr Dark's Pandemonium Carnival in Something Wicked This Way Comes :P

Updated On: 9/24/15 at 08:20 PM

#27

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

Devonian.t hit the nail on the head and so concisely described my main problem with LND.

Although it won't fix all the little problems, I do hope Lord Webber takes his own advice and changes the ending as well. That may help me at least stomach the rest of it, sex-bot notwithstanding...


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#28

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

What??? Christine DIES? Well, I'm not going to see it, then. (not that i would anyway). Also never really got the whole Phantom thing, except for a few songs and some cool scenery.

#29

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

MVintheheartland said: "What??? Christine DIES? Well, I'm not going to see it, then. (not that i would anyway). Also never really got the whole Phantom thing, except for a few songs and some cool scenery.

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LOL I love this reaction on so many levels. (And please note, I don't disagree with your reaction.)

(and I have completely forgotten the sex-bot.)

As I said, I honestly do, unabashedly like a lot of ALW's over the top music for this show. I also liked the design for the Aussie production (the London design was bizarrely safe and basic.) But the story is so WTF that it makes the tv cults and hippy nonsense of Bring Back Birdie sound like a sane idea.

Updated On: 9/25/15 at 07:35 PM

#30

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

Depending on you POV, Phantom really doesn't have a "happy ending". It's subjective to what your desires are in life and how they can change. (And it is called "LOVE Never Dies" the clue is in the name). Christine is/was obviously somewhat taken by both Raoul and the Phantom for the story to conclude. Then comes the little boy and what happens to Meg isn't great but,I know, I know it's not everyone's taste...look at other musicals or opera where the heroine or hero die at the end. Mimi, Butterfly, Billy Bigelow, but Eric is right the Australian fixes and the score and sets, costumes are very grand and suitably gorgeous at times, not overblown. I hope it will eventually get some kind of tour.


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#31

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

I see a high concept re-imagining of this--the Phantom is captured again and writes things out how he wants them to be--Christine secretly had sex with him in some weird moment that Raoul was not watching over her, etc, at the end he's vindicated! Mind you, I never want to see this done on stage, and I'm sure it's been suggested before.

Steve C--I do think the Australian physical production is amazingly gorgeous--different from Maria Bjornson's iconic original sets, but not an insult to them the way the original London's basic sets were. There's a lot to enjoy there if you simply just shake your head at every plot turn... That's a lot to ask of an audience.

#32

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

Ado Annie D'Ysquith said: "Devonian.t hit the nail on the head and so concisely described my main problem with LND.

Although it won't fix all the little problems, I do hope Lord Webber takes his own advice and changes the ending as well. That may help me at least stomach the rest of it, sex-bot notwithstanding..."

The sex bot wasn't in the Australian production, so you may rest easy.


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#33

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

You can't just 'fix the ending' for this thing - the premise of the show is so absurd that there is no satisfying way you could possibly conclude it.

#34

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

This show should have NEVER existed.


The thing is, besides being an utter toad of a human being, Riedel usually has the least knowledge of the topic in the room. He doesn't usually understand the content or approach of a show, and is always completely and unfailingly socially ignorant, which makes it really infuriating when Susan can't get a word in edgewise. A definitive mansplainer; it's always painful when he has female guests. I watch the show sporadically when I really want to see a guest, because it's the only theatre talkshow we have, but it would be so much better without this hateful clown in a dadcoat. (thanks ScaryWarhol)
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LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

LizzieCurry said: "c0113g3b0y said: "I hope it sinks so bad financially. ALW deserves a big slice of humble pie"

He's lost money on every production since Phantom, hasn't he? Let it go.

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On Broadway I think you're right. In London Aspects of Love and Whistle Down the Wind--both of which ran a bit over 3 years--and I think Sunset would have recouped there except that it was affected by all the legal issues with the American production.

#36

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

You wonder why some ALW are "successes" and some not. I saw Whistle Down The Wind at the KC in DC and thought it was a very very good show. I also loved Aspects Of Love and saw that several times, and I was practically a kid then, (that's when I fell in love with Michael Ball).

I've got my School of Rock tickets already and can't wait to see Sierra Boggess again.


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#37

LOVE NEVER DIES will tour the US in 2017

While I recognize flaws in the material, I am a great fan of Aspects of Love (as a young teen I saw the RObin Phillips slightly revised, and very scaled down premier in my hometown of Edmonton which later toured N America.) I also saw the Gayle Edwards Whistle in London--fully expecting that it would be my one chance to sree a disaster as I had heard about the Prince production and really loved it--bad accents aside. It is interesting what shows work in London and which don't (Whistle obviously was reworked for London but Aspects, which I guess did run a year on Broadway was the same production and I think even most of the same cast--I do think part of the problem was the US critics had it out for ALW at the time.) While I admit I even like a lot of Woman in White it seemed odd that that was the most recent show ALW tried to bring over to Broadway given that it wasn't exactly a big hit in the UK.

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