Lestat: The Why (for Phantom2)- Page 2

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 6/4/06 at 1:54am

First off, can you show me where someone posted that? I don't see it anywhere...

So though it is pointless to get into this debate, you really don't sound like you've watched Buffy much. I'm not saying they're exactly the same as Rice's vampires(and all I know of that is Lestat, not the books or anything) but Buffy's vampires are certainly not heartless and devoid of feelings. Maybe some seem to be, just underdeveloped, but not all. Spike and Drusilla certainly had love/hate feelings. There was the dork vampire who liked to read, the master who felt for Darla like she was a daughter, etc. Again, not specifically what you were wording, but something I had to point out nonetheless.

[EAD1974]

Posted: 6/4/06 at 5:17am

In Response to BroadwayChild666:

I'm a HUGE fan of both Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles AND Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel. To casually dismiss Buffy ( possibly because of the title ) would be a mistake. Both the Vampire Chronicles and the Buffy-verse are brilliant in different ways. Anne Rice used the vampires as metaphors for many things; Homosexuality, loss of faith, addiction, you name it. They work on all those levels. But Buffy also deals in metaphor, albeit in this case, the plight of Buffy ( and her friends ) being a metaphor for the pain and angst of growing up. The vampires, at least initially, are indeed one dimensional ( Because they have no souls and therefore no conscience ), but they are not the main focus of the show. When the Vampires DO become the focus of the show, specifically Angel and later Spike, they are given souls in order to give them a moral dilema and not just make them objects for Buffy to vanquish. I'm not sure if Joss Whedon is a Chronicles fan, but SOMEONE on the writing staff had to be. There are many parrallels between Lestat/Louis and Angel/Spike. Like Louis, Angel feels great remorse for what he's done, even to the point of feeding off rats in alleys instead of being tempted by humans. Both are dark haired and brooding. Like Lestat, Spike ( once he gets his soul anyways ) spends some time going mad about the harm he's done, but eventually realizes he can't change what he is or what he's done. Oh,and both Lestat and Spike are blonde and sarcastic, yet charming. In Season 5 of Angel there was even some slightly hinted at Homoerotic tension between Angel and Spike, although nothing like Lestat and Louis LOL. Parts of the Angel/Darla story in Season 2 of Angel are direct riffs on Anne Rice's The Tale of the Body Thief. Both Joss Whedon and Anne Rice know the real power of vampire fiction, ( whether an Ultra Serious take like Rice's or a comedic drama like Buffy ) is the Metaphor, not the fangs. Having said that...I'm sad to see Lestat close. I truly hope that Warners doesn't consider this now a "dead property", and sit on it and do nothing till the rights revert back to Anne Rice. I'd love to see an epic mini series based on the first 3 novels.

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 6/4/06 at 11:32am

Thanks EAD.

I hadn't considered the parallels between the characters, but you do have points when I think about it.

And like I said, I'm not sure I would call the vampires without souls one-dimensional. Not three-dimensional...maybe 2? They do feel in their own way, though they're certainly evil.

The genius of Buffy is the metaphor. I miss that show...err, the earlier seasons especially.

Posted: 6/4/06 at 1:34pm

I used to be a big Buffy...buff? lol. I don't know, I still like it but not as much as I used to so I do know what you're talking about. My overall point was that I really don't think Buffy would make it as a musical lol.

But, alas, along with the majority of you I miss it soo much.
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