Posted: 7/20/05 at 4:24am
London's "Woman in White" now changed to what will be Broadway version — Page 2
#26
#27
Posted: 7/20/05 at 4:40am
"What about Oliver Darley? His voice was strangely chilling singing the part of Sir Percival Glyde. "
Yes, he was excellent as Glyde, but I think Jo's right. If the producers are planning on having Maria and Martin in the NY cast, they may not be able to take any other UK performers across the pond. Jill and Angela are both American, and Michael Ball has previously appeared on Broadway so there are no Equity issues with them.
Yes, he was excellent as Glyde, but I think Jo's right. If the producers are planning on having Maria and Martin in the NY cast, they may not be able to take any other UK performers across the pond. Jill and Angela are both American, and Michael Ball has previously appeared on Broadway so there are no Equity issues with them.
#28
Posted: 7/20/05 at 4:40am
Thanks for clarifying that, Lee.
I agree with you - he will be an asset to the Broadway production! If he does join the show on Broadway, I hope they record a new OCR for the Broadway version. I'd certainly like to hear his voice speaking the lines and singing the songs of Count Fosco ( he did quite well with the Italian accent and the operatic flavour of the songs
).
Jo
I agree with you - he will be an asset to the Broadway production! If he does join the show on Broadway, I hope they record a new OCR for the Broadway version. I'd certainly like to hear his voice speaking the lines and singing the songs of Count Fosco ( he did quite well with the Italian accent and the operatic flavour of the songs
Jo
Updated On: 7/20/05 at 04:40 AM
#29
Posted: 7/20/05 at 4:45am
"Wait a minute... chiseling of Grave? Can somebody explain? I think I saw the version with her walking towards the audience alone onstage. "
According to the libretto in the CD, The Original Ending had Marion standing in the cemetery watching as the name on the grave was changed from Laura Glyde to Anne Catherick. That is what you hear on the CD -- I gather it was the way the show ended opening night. The ending you -- and I -- saw has Marion alone at the train station walking as the set closed in front of her. I don't know when they changed the ending, but I gathered from the notes in the CD that it wasn't too long after the show opened.
According to the libretto in the CD, The Original Ending had Marion standing in the cemetery watching as the name on the grave was changed from Laura Glyde to Anne Catherick. That is what you hear on the CD -- I gather it was the way the show ended opening night. The ending you -- and I -- saw has Marion alone at the train station walking as the set closed in front of her. I don't know when they changed the ending, but I gathered from the notes in the CD that it wasn't too long after the show opened.
Updated On: 7/20/05 at 04:45 AM
#30
Posted: 7/20/05 at 5:32am
If this helps at all - I saw it a week after the first preview, and the finale had already changed by then to just Marion alone on stage. I always found it strangly inconclusive so am looking forwards to seeing this new ending sometime soon...
#31
Posted: 7/20/05 at 5:48am
Interesting what you say, Eastwickian... the chiseling can be heard on the CD, which I understand was recorded on opening night. I guess ALW added the sound during the editing process.
#32
Posted: 7/20/05 at 7:09am
Yep - I think it says in the liner notes that although he actually preferred the chiseling ending (which is why it was included on the recording) in performance it got rather lost in the vastness of the Palace and was changed fairly quickly.
#33
Posted: 7/20/05 at 10:57am
"I think the November 17th date is still target right now. It would be unwise to forgo the holidays and open in January-February, the worst months for tourism (and weather) in NYC.
Last I heard, they were still trying to negotiate with AEA regarding Crews. I'm pretty certain offers have been extended to all the London principles (including Ball), though Equity could, I suppose make a case against Crews, who is neither a name or "uniquely qualified" under AEA rules.
I'm sure they'll announce something in the next few weeks."
There is no question that no one lives here for the January/February weather. On the other hand, it's a great time to grab tickets that are otherwise tough to acquire at a reasonable price!
I take it from your post, then, that none of the other British WIW cast members you referenced would have AEA issues? I am still cross about missing Hugh Jackman in Oklahoma! Should have just flown to London for that one.
Last I heard, they were still trying to negotiate with AEA regarding Crews. I'm pretty certain offers have been extended to all the London principles (including Ball), though Equity could, I suppose make a case against Crews, who is neither a name or "uniquely qualified" under AEA rules.
I'm sure they'll announce something in the next few weeks."
There is no question that no one lives here for the January/February weather. On the other hand, it's a great time to grab tickets that are otherwise tough to acquire at a reasonable price!
I take it from your post, then, that none of the other British WIW cast members you referenced would have AEA issues? I am still cross about missing Hugh Jackman in Oklahoma! Should have just flown to London for that one.
Updated On: 7/20/05 at 10:57 AM
#34
Posted: 7/20/05 at 11:27am
Hugh Jackman didn't do OKLAHOMA on Broadway because he had film commitments, it wasn't because Equity wouldn't allow him to come over.
Angela Christian, and Jill Paice are Americans, so no trouble there. Maria Friedman and Michael Ball qualify for "star" status. The only up in the air quotient is Martin Crews who is not American, or a star. Equity could easily say there are 30 leading men on Broadway right now who could play that role. They'd probably be right, but I do hope that Crews will be allowed to cross over.
Angela Christian, and Jill Paice are Americans, so no trouble there. Maria Friedman and Michael Ball qualify for "star" status. The only up in the air quotient is Martin Crews who is not American, or a star. Equity could easily say there are 30 leading men on Broadway right now who could play that role. They'd probably be right, but I do hope that Crews will be allowed to cross over.
#35
Posted: 7/20/05 at 11:36am
"Maria Friedman and Michael Ball qualify for "star" status. "
I didn't realize that Maria qualified for "star" status. Has she been on Broadway before?
I didn't realize that Maria qualified for "star" status. Has she been on Broadway before?
#36
Posted: 7/20/05 at 11:45am
No, but she's done concert work in NYC. She's also had a succesful recording career and has won three Olivier Awards.
Conversely, I'm sure that someone like Audra McDonald would qualify for "star status" to work in the West End.
Conversely, I'm sure that someone like Audra McDonald would qualify for "star status" to work in the West End.
#37
Posted: 7/20/05 at 11:49am
Thanks, Michael. I always thought it was Equity that blocked Mr. Jackman from coming over earlier; I'll have to say a few mea culpas over that one.
Do you happen to know how "star status" is defined? Does Equity use the same criteria the visa folks use? Does a producer have to petition for star status to be accorded, or is it simply a matter of whether or not the person has appeared on Broadway before? I'm just curious.
I am really looking forward to seeing Maria Friedman on Broadway and, hopefully, Michael Ball with her in this show. They were each wonderful.
Martin Crewes: you know, unlike either Ms. Friedman's or Mr. Ball's performances, it is true that there wasn't anything unique about his Walter Hartwright that would require his performing the role. Still, he did a terrific job, and I, too, hope they'll let him come.
Do you happen to know how "star status" is defined? Does Equity use the same criteria the visa folks use? Does a producer have to petition for star status to be accorded, or is it simply a matter of whether or not the person has appeared on Broadway before? I'm just curious.
I am really looking forward to seeing Maria Friedman on Broadway and, hopefully, Michael Ball with her in this show. They were each wonderful.
Martin Crewes: you know, unlike either Ms. Friedman's or Mr. Ball's performances, it is true that there wasn't anything unique about his Walter Hartwright that would require his performing the role. Still, he did a terrific job, and I, too, hope they'll let him come.
#38
Posted: 7/20/05 at 12:01pm
Well it's definitely not as simple as having "worked" on Broadway before. For example, the OBC of CARRIE consisted of a half American/Half British cast because the show was presented with a joint agreement with the RSC. But that doesn't mean any Brit who was in that show would automatically be able to work on Broadway again anytime they wanted to.
The producer would have to lobby and petition on the actor's behalf to Equity. The individual usually has to qualify for "star status," which is usually subjective and evaluated on a case-by-case basis, or the individual has to qualify as being "uniquely qualified" for the role.
The producers of MISS SAIGON didn't have much trouble getting Lea Salonga through Equity on the "uniquely qualified" clause, but Elaine Paige was famously denied permission by Equity to do EVITA in NYC.
The rules have been relaxed a little bit over the years. Laura Michelle Kelly will probably repeat MARY POPPINS in NYC (provided it opens before 2007) and she doesn't really qualify as a star or uniquely qualified.
If Crews were allowed to come over, it would be part of an EQUITY exchange. Laura Michelle Kelly, for example, was allowed to do FIDDLER in NYC as a trade for Angela Christian doing WIW in London...
The producer would have to lobby and petition on the actor's behalf to Equity. The individual usually has to qualify for "star status," which is usually subjective and evaluated on a case-by-case basis, or the individual has to qualify as being "uniquely qualified" for the role.
The producers of MISS SAIGON didn't have much trouble getting Lea Salonga through Equity on the "uniquely qualified" clause, but Elaine Paige was famously denied permission by Equity to do EVITA in NYC.
The rules have been relaxed a little bit over the years. Laura Michelle Kelly will probably repeat MARY POPPINS in NYC (provided it opens before 2007) and she doesn't really qualify as a star or uniquely qualified.
If Crews were allowed to come over, it would be part of an EQUITY exchange. Laura Michelle Kelly, for example, was allowed to do FIDDLER in NYC as a trade for Angela Christian doing WIW in London...
Updated On: 7/20/05 at 12:01 PM
#39
Posted: 7/20/05 at 12:15pm
"Well it's definitely not as simple as having "worked" on Broadway before. "
Thanks for the clarification, Michael. The "having worked on Broadway before" comment was something I remembered reading long ago when the issue of Sarah Brightman playing Christine on Broadway came up. That reason was cited in the news article as to why Michael Crawford was allowed to reprise his role, whereas it was "iffy" that Ms. Brightman would be allowed to reprise here role.
I, too, thought Equity was the problem when HJ didn't come over to do Oklahoma.
So, based on what you say, I'm assuming that Brian Dennehy, currently in "Death of a Salesman" in the West End, has "star" status? Would the same be true for David Schwimmer and Jane Krakowski, who are also in the West End?
Thanks for the clarification, Michael. The "having worked on Broadway before" comment was something I remembered reading long ago when the issue of Sarah Brightman playing Christine on Broadway came up. That reason was cited in the news article as to why Michael Crawford was allowed to reprise his role, whereas it was "iffy" that Ms. Brightman would be allowed to reprise here role.
I, too, thought Equity was the problem when HJ didn't come over to do Oklahoma.
So, based on what you say, I'm assuming that Brian Dennehy, currently in "Death of a Salesman" in the West End, has "star" status? Would the same be true for David Schwimmer and Jane Krakowski, who are also in the West End?
#40
Posted: 7/20/05 at 12:23pm
Definitely. Most television/film personalities automatically qualify, though supposedly Equity denied Toni Collette permission to replace Natasha Richardson in CABARET even though she'd starred in "Muriel's Wedding."
Michael Crawford obviously qualified for star status as did Jonathan Pryce. (There was a fuss with Equity because he wasn't asian playing a Eurasian role - but he was a previous Tony Award Winner -- qualifying him for "star status.")
ALW threatened to cancel PHANTOM if Brightman wasn't allowed to come over, though by the time she did ASPECTS, she qualified for "star status."
Michael Crawford obviously qualified for star status as did Jonathan Pryce. (There was a fuss with Equity because he wasn't asian playing a Eurasian role - but he was a previous Tony Award Winner -- qualifying him for "star status.")
ALW threatened to cancel PHANTOM if Brightman wasn't allowed to come over, though by the time she did ASPECTS, she qualified for "star status."
Updated On: 7/20/05 at 12:23 PM
#41
Posted: 7/20/05 at 12:37pm
Michael, thanks for the explanation. Really appreciated :)
I always wondered how the AEA process worked.
BTW, surely "Carrie" is an extreme example.
I always wondered how the AEA process worked.
BTW, surely "Carrie" is an extreme example
#42
Posted: 7/20/05 at 8:12pm
I don't think this show will be a success on Broadway. Times and tastes have changed and this show will not do well. Brantley did not like the show in London (and he really didn't like the projections). I saw it- liked it and thought it was pleasant enough but wasn't blown away by it.
The show is on one hand too operatic to appeal to most theatregoers and on the other hand it's too "commercial" to appeal to the wine and cheese/Sondheim loving crowd that's making Piazza into an unlikely hit.
The show is on one hand too operatic to appeal to most theatregoers and on the other hand it's too "commercial" to appeal to the wine and cheese/Sondheim loving crowd that's making Piazza into an unlikely hit.
"It does what a musical is supposed to do; it takes you to another world. And it gives you a little tune to carry in your head. Something to take you away from the dreary horrors of the real world. A little something for when you're feeling blue. You know?"
#43
Posted: 7/20/05 at 8:14pm
I don't think this show will be a success on Broadway. Times and tastes have changed and this show will not do well. Brantley did not like the show in London (and he really didn't like the projections). I saw it- liked it and thought it was pleasant enough but wasn't blown away by it.
The show is on one hand too operatic to appeal to most theatregoers and on the other hand it's too "commercial" to appeal to the wine and cheese/Sondheim loving crowd that's making Piazza into an unlikely hit.
I know you will all flame me for this but this is not a comment about the show but about the tastes of current audiences.
The show is on one hand too operatic to appeal to most theatregoers and on the other hand it's too "commercial" to appeal to the wine and cheese/Sondheim loving crowd that's making Piazza into an unlikely hit.
I know you will all flame me for this but this is not a comment about the show but about the tastes of current audiences.
"It does what a musical is supposed to do; it takes you to another world. And it gives you a little tune to carry in your head. Something to take you away from the dreary horrors of the real world. A little something for when you're feeling blue. You know?"
#44
Posted: 7/20/05 at 9:25pm
I agree with what Plum has said about the Hugh Jackman OKLAHOMA! transfer --
According to Maureen Lipman ( who played Aunt Eller in the West End production) in her book LIP READING, the original cast ( major members) were all meant to transfer to Broadway but were refused by American Actors Equity headed by Alan Eisenberg. Mr Eisenberg eventually came to see the show in London and visited the cast in their dressing rooms. "Too late to admit us, he stood, chastened, and confessed he'd been knocked out...By a real community of players in a landmark production", wrote Maureen.
A few years later, there was another effort to bring the production over...by that time, Hugh Jackman had been lost to Hollywood. It was that momentary loss which eventually paved the way for Hugh's debut in THE BOY FROM OZ, which ironically some people derided as stunt casting from Hollywood.
I was lucky myself - I was in London on a business trip in the spring of 1999. I had time to see a show and thought it might be good to see the RNT revival of OKLAHOMA! as I was a Rodgers and Hammerstein fan, had only seen the movie version, and had heard good things about the RNT's CAROUSEL revival earlier. So, I did get to see this new leading man, with his commanding presence, swaggering onstage and charming everyone in the audience, and showing off his musical theatre voice
According to Maureen Lipman ( who played Aunt Eller in the West End production) in her book LIP READING, the original cast ( major members) were all meant to transfer to Broadway but were refused by American Actors Equity headed by Alan Eisenberg. Mr Eisenberg eventually came to see the show in London and visited the cast in their dressing rooms. "Too late to admit us, he stood, chastened, and confessed he'd been knocked out...By a real community of players in a landmark production", wrote Maureen.
A few years later, there was another effort to bring the production over...by that time, Hugh Jackman had been lost to Hollywood. It was that momentary loss which eventually paved the way for Hugh's debut in THE BOY FROM OZ, which ironically some people derided as stunt casting from Hollywood.
I was lucky myself - I was in London on a business trip in the spring of 1999. I had time to see a show and thought it might be good to see the RNT revival of OKLAHOMA! as I was a Rodgers and Hammerstein fan, had only seen the movie version, and had heard good things about the RNT's CAROUSEL revival earlier. So, I did get to see this new leading man, with his commanding presence, swaggering onstage and charming everyone in the audience, and showing off his musical theatre voice
Updated On: 7/20/05 at 09:25 PM
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