"Mama, I'm a Big Girl Now" - is it in the film???
#2
Posted: 5/27/07 at 5:37pm
It's not.
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#3
Posted: 5/27/07 at 5:39pm
Whoa. I was just singing this song and then I saw this thread.
That was weird.
That was weird.
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#4
Posted: 5/27/07 at 5:40pm
That's too bad.... I love that song!!
#5
Posted: 5/27/07 at 6:20pm
That's really ridiculous..that's one of the best songs in the show.
#6
Posted: 5/27/07 at 6:25pm
Either Marc of Adam said one of these two things...
It either
A) Did nothing to advance the plot
or
B) Introduced characters to early in the movie
It either
A) Did nothing to advance the plot
or
B) Introduced characters to early in the movie
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#7
Posted: 5/27/07 at 6:26pm
from mateo's blog:
Composer Marc Shaiman spoke with Theatermania’s Peter Filichia about Hairspray in a recent phone interview.
PF: What changes can we expect from Hairspray?
MS: Well, it’s been heartbreaking, but as of now, we’ve left out “Mama, I’m a Big Girl Now.”
PF: I’m appalled. I love that song.
MS: So do people with New Line Cinema, who said, “You can’t cut that song!” In a way, maybe we haven’t. We’re still recording it, with the characters who would have sung it, and we may run it over the end credits. But we really found it was unecessary to the plot, because “Good Morning Baltimore” sets the character. Movies have to get to where they’re going a little faster, and you can afford to be a little looser on stage with that engine getting going. “The Nicest Kid in Town” is still the second song, though.
Composer Marc Shaiman spoke with Theatermania’s Peter Filichia about Hairspray in a recent phone interview.
PF: What changes can we expect from Hairspray?
MS: Well, it’s been heartbreaking, but as of now, we’ve left out “Mama, I’m a Big Girl Now.”
PF: I’m appalled. I love that song.
MS: So do people with New Line Cinema, who said, “You can’t cut that song!” In a way, maybe we haven’t. We’re still recording it, with the characters who would have sung it, and we may run it over the end credits. But we really found it was unecessary to the plot, because “Good Morning Baltimore” sets the character. Movies have to get to where they’re going a little faster, and you can afford to be a little looser on stage with that engine getting going. “The Nicest Kid in Town” is still the second song, though.
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#8
Posted: 5/27/07 at 6:50pm
It showed unity for all three mother/daughter relationships and sets up for rebellion from all three of the girls. I don't think it advances the plot (action-wise), but it certainly adds to characterization for all of those characters. Also, it just reignites this whole idea of "BIG GIRL!" Which, in the musical, doesn't necessarily equate to weight, but speaking out against social norm.
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#9
Posted: 5/27/07 at 7:06pm
Its not in the film.
But it's gonna be a bonus track featuring the Three famous Tracys: Rikki Lake, Marissa Jaret Winkour and Nikki Blonsky.
Hairspray Soundtrack to Include Bonus Track with 3 Tracy's
But it's gonna be a bonus track featuring the Three famous Tracys: Rikki Lake, Marissa Jaret Winkour and Nikki Blonsky.
Hairspray Soundtrack to Include Bonus Track with 3 Tracy's
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Updated On: 5/27/07 at 07:06 PM
#10
Posted: 5/27/07 at 7:37pm
I'm sure the film will be great. But, to have cut that song, wasn't the smartest decision to have been made. It's a great song...very catchy!
#11
Posted: 5/27/07 at 7:44pm
um...just thought I'd step in here....
No one wanted the movie to be one of these bloated things we all sit through these days where it seems like the directors and editors are in love with every frame and WON'T MAKE THE CUTS. My God, even Spiderman and Pirates movies are clocking in at crazy lengths.
In other words, to make the movie the right length, we basically had to cut over 45 minutes from what plays on the Broadway stage every night.
So, do the math!
As it stands right now, the movie is just about an opera, what with the musical numbers coming fast and furious, one after another. There is no intermission for breathing space. Something hadda give! It's gonna be O.K.!
And our director made a good point, which was the song made Tracy/Edna & Amber/Velma too much "the same" and for movie villians to be the most fun, we would be better off keeping them "apart". I thought it was a sound idea.
I am ecstatic about how the movie came out. The audiences that have seen it (and in temporary form still) have reacted like a great night at the show. And these have been "normal" people off the street who I feared would be like "why are they singing? why are they singing??". And they have loved it! The heart and soul is all there.
Marc Shaiman
No one wanted the movie to be one of these bloated things we all sit through these days where it seems like the directors and editors are in love with every frame and WON'T MAKE THE CUTS. My God, even Spiderman and Pirates movies are clocking in at crazy lengths.
In other words, to make the movie the right length, we basically had to cut over 45 minutes from what plays on the Broadway stage every night.
So, do the math!
As it stands right now, the movie is just about an opera, what with the musical numbers coming fast and furious, one after another. There is no intermission for breathing space. Something hadda give! It's gonna be O.K.!
And our director made a good point, which was the song made Tracy/Edna & Amber/Velma too much "the same" and for movie villians to be the most fun, we would be better off keeping them "apart". I thought it was a sound idea.
I am ecstatic about how the movie came out. The audiences that have seen it (and in temporary form still) have reacted like a great night at the show. And these have been "normal" people off the street who I feared would be like "why are they singing? why are they singing??". And they have loved it! The heart and soul is all there.
#12
Posted: 5/27/07 at 7:49pm
Thanks for chiming in as always Marc. I am very excited to see it. By all accounts and thinks showing up, it looks first rate.
I felt that as far as deciding what was critial to the piece and not, the "Casino" cut really proved helpful, even though, of course it is very different and a totally different medium, it gave you guys a great chance to EALLY get down to the meat and bones of the piece.
"Mama" is a great song, but ultimately IS not NECESSARY to tell the story. Okay, it establishes that each of the girls likes to rebel a little. Every teen does.. it's common knowlege. We always see how much of a stage mother Velma is, how uptight Prdy is and always forbidding things, and we always see Edna discouraging Tracy's hair and behavior until she lands on the show. Yes, the songs draws paralells, which you say Shankman felt un needed her, and it sums up everything else playing out. watch the action and the feeling of the song remains, so excising it works fine. It isn't a major plot point on its own.
I felt that as far as deciding what was critial to the piece and not, the "Casino" cut really proved helpful, even though, of course it is very different and a totally different medium, it gave you guys a great chance to EALLY get down to the meat and bones of the piece.
"Mama" is a great song, but ultimately IS not NECESSARY to tell the story. Okay, it establishes that each of the girls likes to rebel a little. Every teen does.. it's common knowlege. We always see how much of a stage mother Velma is, how uptight Prdy is and always forbidding things, and we always see Edna discouraging Tracy's hair and behavior until she lands on the show. Yes, the songs draws paralells, which you say Shankman felt un needed her, and it sums up everything else playing out. watch the action and the feeling of the song remains, so excising it works fine. It isn't a major plot point on its own.
#13
Posted: 5/27/07 at 7:51pm
I love how you like swoop in from gay heaven.
I wouldn't mind an epic-length Hairspray - in fact- show it in real time! So I can sit there and watch a bored Tracy in Geography class for a whole 45 minutes. I don't mind.
I wouldn't mind an epic-length Hairspray - in fact- show it in real time! So I can sit there and watch a bored Tracy in Geography class for a whole 45 minutes. I don't mind.
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#14
Posted: 5/27/07 at 7:51pm
thank you marc.
i was praying you would come on this post...some people feel that they are the directors sometimes.
i was praying you would come on this post...some people feel that they are the directors sometimes.
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#15
Posted: 5/27/07 at 8:24pm
well Marc that eases my concerns, as I love that song. But I also realize that anyone NOT familiar with the play wouldn't miss it at all (of course) and in that respect it does not add anything......(but I do love it, and frankly people here in Palm Springs give me strange looks when they hear me singing it in my car....). Can't say I blame them, lol
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#16
Posted: 5/27/07 at 8:49pm
Imagine the looks I get up here Elphaba. :)
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"Celebrating a birthday this week: Rene Descartes is 412! Do you know who he is? Then why are you watching this show? You could probably get into college and even get one of those job things. As for the rest of us; Amanda Bynes is 22! Yay!"
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#17
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:17pm
Thanks for the update, Marc. I wasn't harping on anyone...it's just such a great song...very catchy...and, you hum it as you're leaving the theatre.
Can't wait for the film!
Can't wait for the film!
#18
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:25pm
well, if you come see the movie, you will certainly leave the theatre singing it, since it will be the last of the three songs in the End Titles! You will literally be singing along with "The Three Tracy's"!!
#19
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:27pm
YAY thats a scoop!!!
come so far, mama I would assuem the third is the curtain call music?
I wont post it on the blog- in case things change. I dont wnat to get anyones hopes up.
come so far, mama I would assuem the third is the curtain call music?
I wont post it on the blog- in case things change. I dont wnat to get anyones hopes up.
"Zac is sweet as can be. He's very much just a sweet kid from California who happens to have a face that looks like it was drawn by Michelangelo, (if Michelangelo did anime)."
-Adam Shankman.
"I haven't left this building since Windows 3.1!"
"Celebrating a birthday this week: Rene Descartes is 412! Do you know who he is? Then why are you watching this show? You could probably get into college and even get one of those job things. As for the rest of us; Amanda Bynes is 22! Yay!"
-E!'s "The Soup"
-Adam Shankman.
"I haven't left this building since Windows 3.1!"
"Celebrating a birthday this week: Rene Descartes is 412! Do you know who he is? Then why are you watching this show? You could probably get into college and even get one of those job things. As for the rest of us; Amanda Bynes is 22! Yay!"
-E!'s "The Soup"
Updated On: 5/27/07 at 09:27 PM
#20
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:29pm
It's a fabulous song in the show but, I could see why it would be cut for film.
#21
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:36pm
I believe the End Title will incorporate
COME SO FAR (which is beyond fabulous)
COOTIES (which is fanTAStic!)
MAMA, I'M A BIG GIRL NOW (which has an extra added surprise in it, even beyond THE THRE TRACYS)
COME SO FAR (which is beyond fabulous)
COOTIES (which is fanTAStic!)
MAMA, I'M A BIG GIRL NOW (which has an extra added surprise in it, even beyond THE THRE TRACYS)
#22
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:38pm
"MAMA, I'M A BIG GIRL NOW (which has an extra added surprise in it, even beyond THE THRE TRACYS) "
Do you sing it too!?
Do you sing it too!?
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#23
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:41pm
Marc- When you say it is like an opera, do you mean that there is a lot of song and little dialogue.
How long is the movie running as of now?
How long is the movie running as of now?
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#24
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:43pm
Cooties- Lucian's dance track? will that fit the rest of the sound?
"Zac is sweet as can be. He's very much just a sweet kid from California who happens to have a face that looks like it was drawn by Michelangelo, (if Michelangelo did anime)."
-Adam Shankman.
"I haven't left this building since Windows 3.1!"
"Celebrating a birthday this week: Rene Descartes is 412! Do you know who he is? Then why are you watching this show? You could probably get into college and even get one of those job things. As for the rest of us; Amanda Bynes is 22! Yay!"
-E!'s "The Soup"
-Adam Shankman.
"I haven't left this building since Windows 3.1!"
"Celebrating a birthday this week: Rene Descartes is 412! Do you know who he is? Then why are you watching this show? You could probably get into college and even get one of those job things. As for the rest of us; Amanda Bynes is 22! Yay!"
-E!'s "The Soup"
#25
Posted: 5/27/07 at 9:46pm
Tap- I think Marc means that there's already a lot of music. I don't think he means it is literally on the verge of being an opera. He was just making a statement. Although, I could be wrong.
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