Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:01am
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:21am
Other composers have had this dilemma as well, but they recovered from it. SWEET CHARITY is thought of as a Fosse show, not a Cy Coleman one. But at least Coleman got BARNUM, which has never (to my knowledge) been referred to as a "Joe Layton musical."
Hamlish was cursed, in this regard. CHORUS LINE is the Bennett show, THEY'RE PLAYING OUR SONG is a Neil Simon show, and GOODBYE GIRL was just bad.
SWEET SMELL, on the other hand, could have been his breakthrough.
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Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:25am
Except that I think "Paula" is kind of a cute number.
Why doesn't ANYONE know "They're Playing Our Song"? (I mean, hardly anyone.)
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:25am
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:33am
I suspect that the reason THEY'RE PLAYING OUR SONG isn't performed that often is due to the one very difficult set requirement it has: A moving car. While that is an easy effect for a Broadway production to achieve, it's not so easy for community theatres. Which is sad, because the small cast, funny script, and accessible score would seem to guarantee it more productions than it garners. (And it can't be cut, it's central to the plot of most of the first act of the show.)
It would seem to be a case of Neil Simon screwing himself out of a lot of royalties. Which is too bad. It's a really fun show.
(Slightly OT -- I must confess that Stockard Channing's drunk driving charge today got me thinking about the car scenes in THEY'RE PLAYING OUR SONG, as she was the first actress I ever saw play that role. Shame on me.)
Updated On: 1/27/05 at 02:33 AM
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:49am
That's why I've seen more than enough mediocre productions of A Chorus Line, and scattered productions of The Goodbye Girl, and never a single mounting of They're Playing Our Song.
Goodbye Girl IS unfortunate... but I think it has a few good numbers. As I said, I think "Paula" is a little charming. "Don't Follow in My Footsteps" is a cute number for a cabaret or review. "I Think I Can Play This Part" is a nice, sweet song, and I've heard it used at auditions quite a few times. And "A Beat Behind" is a solid comedy number. Overall, the show isn't abysmal, but it's not GOOD either.
I do think he should get more credit for A Chorus Line, not that Bennett isn't a genius.
Poor Sweet Smell
Posted: 1/27/05 at 3:06am
Bernadette was completely wrong for the Marsha Mason role. She had NO chemistry with Martin Short. The set was cumbersome, and it looked like the actors were simply trying to keep up with that obstacle-course turntable, instead of thinking about their performances. The daughter was ghastly. And Rick Crom's role was cut out of town. (Note to future producers: When you have Rick Crom in a show, don't cut him out of town.)
I do like the cast album, however. I agree with you on all of the songs you mentioned. I'm a big fan of David Zippel, I think he's a very clever lyricist ("A Beat Behind" always makes me laugh. It's a funny, funny lyric.)
I don't have the London cast recording, in which the score was apparently modified substantially from the Broadway tunestack. I need to seek it out.
Posted: 1/27/05 at 3:10am
What was Rick Crom's role? I'm very curious! I don't remember hearing about this.
Posted: 1/27/05 at 3:22am
Go see NEWSICAL if you haven't yet. It's a terrific example of Rick Crom doing what he does best.
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:07pm
Back to Hamlisch, I know a few of the Bd'w people he's worked with and he definitely runs his show by his own rules, which are often hard to swallow. He never wants the singers to outshine his orchestra and plans accordingly. He also take up much show time flaunting himself and his schtick. I found this most unnappealing.
Unlike Peter Nero and the Philly Pops, who presents his Broadway ShowStoppers Concerts with generous spotlights on the the Broadway vocalists. Peter generates a warmth and charm that few leaders have. It's a great concert every year.
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:10pm
I LOVE the score to THEY'RE PLAYING OUR SONG.
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:14pm
Marvin, you're alright by me!
Posted: 1/27/05 at 2:19pm
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Posted: 1/27/05 at 5:34pm
My favourite movie song of his it had to be 'The Way We Were' because I heard it lots of times and I begin to like it so much.
I love that score and beautiful main theme of 'Sophie's Choice'.
I was so deeply moved while I was listen to it and I just love that theme and the songs from his recent musical 'Sweet Smell of Success' mostly the 'At The Fountain' musical number.
I can bare it that he's a good composer and many songs are good but his talent remains the best. I just like him because he's very talented and he was wonderful. PB Ent, do you have questions about Marvin?
Posted: 1/27/05 at 6:44pm
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Posted: 1/27/05 at 10:00pm
PB Ent, I've heard this as well. Do you think this has anything to do with the lack of appreciation from the Broadway community for him? He does seem to scream "Hollywood," which is, of course, where he came from. Perhaps people don't take his music seriously because they don't like him personally.
It seems like it's fine when a Broadway composer goes off to Hollywood, but the reverse is never true. (Like Andre Previn, or John Williams).
Posted: 1/27/05 at 10:06pm
It's interesting watching him work as Barbra's conductor - he definitely defers to her. Can you imagine the rehearsals?
Posted: 1/27/05 at 10:15pm
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Posted: 1/27/05 at 10:53pm
Posted: 1/28/05 at 12:18am
The majority of the score is adorable and perfection within the show!
That show needs to be seen more!!
Posted: 1/28/05 at 1:02am
On the other hand, I can't stand Sweet Smell of Success.
Posted: 1/28/05 at 1:39am
Posted: 1/28/05 at 1:50am
I disagree with the Susan character being underwritten -- she actually makes much more sense in the musical than she does in the film.
I do agree that the music is occasionally "inappropriately bright"... or if not really "inappropriately bright," at least unsettling. I find the whole "gotta get in the column" refrain a little, well, contrived. (Perhaps it was that choreography).
On the other hand, I think that 'At the Fountain' sums up Sidney's character better in three and a half minutes than anything in the film.
It's certainly not the best musical ever written. But I think that the positives far outweigh the negatives.
Posted: 1/28/05 at 1:58am
As far the overcomplicated choreo goes, even at the Tonys I was thinking, "why?".
"At the Fountain" is a wonderful 4 minutes of character development. Also, if the Featured Actor category wasn't so tough that year, James would have had a well-deserved Tony (or so I've been told by friends). Nonetheless, I do hope I am able to see the show at some point!
To add...some of Hamlisch's piano parts are killer!!
Updated On: 1/28/05 at 01:58 AM
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