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#1

Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 2:34pm

After "Music of the Night," there's a scene where Meg Giry enters Christine's dressing room and discovers the mirror/door that leads to the Phantom's lair. She enters but before she can go far, Madame Giry takes her back...What is strange is that she never bothers with it again. Is she not curious?

Back, he spurred like a madman, shrieking a curse to the sky. With the white road smoking behind him and his rapier brandished high! Blood-red were the spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat, when they shot him down on the highway, down like a dog on the highway, and he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat... (The Highwayman. Sung by: Loreena McKennitt)

#2

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 2:35pm

I guess her mom gave her some stern lecture not to??

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#3

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 2:41pm

It only makes sense that Madame Giry would tell Meg Giry not to go back, since Madame Giry knows all about the Phantom.

#4

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 2:44pm

They should never have put that scene in...it was pointless. Also, there's also nothing about Box 5...only once in the beginning.(Which really sucked!)

Back, he spurred like a madman, shrieking a curse to the sky. With the white road smoking behind him and his rapier brandished high! Blood-red were the spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat, when they shot him down on the highway, down like a dog on the highway, and he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat... (The Highwayman. Sung by: Loreena McKennitt)

#5

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 2:45pm

i dunno, something tells me i would rather see Emmy and Patrick on a roof top than Meg being yelled at.

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#6

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 2:55pm

I'd rather see Meg get yelled at. These are the reasons people love "reality tv".

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#7

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 3:27pm

To me, it seemed the scene was only added in to provide a bit of suspense, which I guess worked a bit as a couple of people screamed when she saw the mouse, but also to do something to separate Christine from going to sleep and waking up. But I agree, it was slightly unnecessary, as I feel the swordfight as too. As a matter of fact, I've seen it 7 times, and if I'm tired, that's always the scene I relax and shut my eyes for. Oh well.

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#8

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 3:32pm

I think the point of the whole "Box Five" thing was just to further show the Phantom's level of demand and control. It didn't have anything specific to do with the plot, but it did help show how controlling he was.

#9

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 3:39pm

When they release the DVD, you will see the deleted footage of Meg singing "Music and The Mirror" and it will make sense.

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#10

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 5:56pm

They should never have put that scene in...it was pointless.

The scene was very important to me. When we first see Christine enter the hallway with the Phantom - it looks very clean, beautiful, and ornate. Christine is in a sort of *trance*, and I felt as if we were seeing the illusion of what she believes she's experiencing. When Meg enters, we see the reality -- it's a dirty old hallway. I always felt that scene was there to convey that.

I also felt that it explained why the Phantom doesn't look as "deformed" when Christine is with him as he does when she unmasks him at the end. We are seeing what *she* is seeing when she looks at him. At the end, she is realizing who he really is rather than adoring the image she's been obsessed with all these years - and we are finally seeing her reality. I'm probably over thinking it - but that's how I interpreted it!

Also, Meg does go back into the lair at the very end.

Updated On: 2/24/05 at 05:56 PM

#11

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:07pm

To add on with what Becky said, when Christine enters the mirror it looks as though she is going staight through it. This thus makes sense about her being in sort as a trance. But when Meg enters, she finds that to go into the passage one has to slide the mirror aside. So again from this we get a sense of how Christine views the Phantom and his world; in an almost magical way.

#12

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:09pm

Music and the Mirror? I didn't realize Webber wrote such a song. It's not on the CD.

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#13

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:12pm

becky and luvliza, thats what i've been wanting to say, but havent been able to get down :P

by the way luvliza, im quite the fan of your av of my wife

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#14

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:15pm

All I ever wanted was the music and the mirror and the chance to daaaaaaaaaance with youuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!

#15

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:15pm

" Music and the Mirror? I didn't realize Webber wrote such a song. It's not on the CD."

Ummmmm you obvi didn't get the secret special platium edition of the movie soundtrack that only the REAL Phans got. There's this really cool place in Boston that looks exactly like the Phantom's lair and you can buy it there. It will cost you $100 and a piece of your face...BUT IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!

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#16

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:16pm

ooooooooooooooooo...........

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#17

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:19pm

yes, the real soundtrack goes:

...06. phantom of the opera
07. music of the night
08. music and the mirror
09. magical lasso...

it's the two dico one with the new cover. not the old one with the ugly gray cover...

Updated On: 2/24/05 at 06:19 PM

#18

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:31pm

This is how it goes:

When A Chorus Line was made into a movie, they replaced the song "Music and the Mirror". Ever since that time, they've been looking for a chance to insert that song in another show. Finally, they found their chance in Phantom: a character that could sing "God, I'm a dancer. A dancer dances".

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#19

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 6:53pm

"I also felt that it explained why the Phantom doesn't look as "deformed" when Christine is with him as he does when she unmasks him at the end..."

Yeah, as soon as Christine pulled off his mask he didn't look handsome anymore. Even the side that was handsome (not being covered by the mask) got uglier after the mask was pulled off.

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#20

re: Meg Giry and the Mirror

Posted: 2/24/05 at 7:55pm

Even the side that was handsome (not being covered by the mask) got uglier after the mask was pulled off.

Exactly. Although, I did notice (the second time I saw the movie)that when he is dressing at his mirror (before Don Juan I think?) it appears he is adjusting his wig as the Phantom. It was a subtle thing that I missed the first time. That explained the hair (or lack of hair) transformation at the end with the character when he is unmasked.

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