Most shocking Tony moment

#1

Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:01pm

What's the moment where your jaw just dropped? Avenue Q beating Wicked must surely be one of the biggest upsets, but what about other clashes?
I couldn't believe Marissa Jaret Winokur won over Bernadette Peters...still can't...Nothing against Marissa, she's talented yes, but still.

Updated On: 12/28/04 at 10:01 PM

#2

re: Most shocking Tony win

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:01pm

I thought Marissa would win.
I thought Idina upsetting Tonya and Donna was a much bigger shock.

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#3

re: Most shocking Tony win

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:03pm

people boo'd when AQ won - it was so horrible!

#4

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:05pm

My jaw dropped when Wicked lost to Avenue Q, because all the hype was on Wicked and it was "the" show. However, that is terrible that people booed Avenue Q. They deserve a congratulations.

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#5

re: Most shocking Tony win

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:05pm

Wow, I don't remember that. That's so unfair. They deserved it. Um, I really wanted Tonya to win, so I was pretty shocked.

#6

re: Most shocking Tony win

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:06pm

Crazy For You winning Best Musical over Falsettos and Jelly's Last Jam was a stunner. Even the Weisslers looked shocked during their acceptance speech.

Another one that really surprised people was Jim Dale (Barnum) winning over Mickey Rooney (Sugar Babies).

#7

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:06pm

The booing must have sounded ungracious.

Updated On: 12/28/04 at 10:06 PM

#8

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:08pm

when that lady from Bring In Da Noise Bring In Da Funk beat out Idina in RENT.

#9

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:10pm

and the Tony goes to.....Avenue Q

#10

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:10pm

When Marc and Scott declared their love on national television, including a beautiful kiss.

It was shocking because I was not expecting it.

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:14pm

I remember when Best Musical was announced this year. They said "And the winner of the best musical is..." And I started screamign "Wicked!" When the ysaid Avenue Q, I ahd to ask my mom for verification that Avenue Q actually won. I was so shocked. I thought Bernadette Peters would win in 2003 but wasn't that shocked when she didn't.

#12

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:14pm

and they left up the Wicked poster instead of changing it to AQ

#13

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:15pm

The Bernadette Peters loss wasn't so much of a shock because Gypsy opened late in the season and the small number of performances voters could see were during a period when she was in bad health.

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re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:17pm

The Tony Awards for the 1983-1984 season:

Jerry Herman winning the best score for "La Cage aux Folles" over Stephen Sondheim for "Sunday In The Park With George"

And

Harvey Fierstein winning best book for "La Cage aux Folles" over James Lapine for "Sunday In The Park With George".

Sondheim and Lapine did go on, however, to win the Pulitzer Prize for that show.

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Updated On: 12/28/04 at 10:17 PM

#15

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:24pm

"Crazy For You winning Best Musical over Falsettos and Jelly's Last Jam was a stunner. Even the Weisslers looked shocked during their acceptance speech."

The Weisslers may have looked shocked, but it wouldn't have been during their acceptance speech - they produced FALSETTOS, not CRAZY FOR YOU.

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#16

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:25pm

I still think that Wicked was robbed, don't see the wow factor with Avenue Q

#17

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:25pm

At the time of the Tony's this year, I hadn't seen "Wicked" or "Ave. Q" but I was rooting for "Wicked." Funny, I read some thing that said usually the show that wins the Outer Cricits Cirle Award and the Drama Desk almost ALWAYS goes on to win the Tony. Odd how that didn't happen for "Wicked." I think the Tony's tried to be off the wall about it, you know? I was sad that Ms. Peters didn't win last year, either. She was much better in her role than the other girl was in "Hairspray."

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#18

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:27pm

Although everyone has said this, clearly when Avenue Q beat Wicked. The entire 03-04 award show was messed up.

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#19

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:29pm

Neil Simon for Biloxi Blues over As Is, Hurlyburly and Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

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#20

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:29pm

Thanks Rathnait62. Old brain cells are fading.

I just remember two people, a man and a woman, giving the Crazy For You acceptance speech and seeming very bewildered.

#21

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:35pm

Roger Horchow and Elizabeth Williams would have been the bewildered producers that evening, dry.

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#22

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:41pm

I read some thing that said usually the show that wins the Outer Cricits Cirle Award and the Drama Desk almost ALWAYS goes on to win the Tony. Odd how that didn't happen for "Wicked."

It should be noted that Avenue Q wasn't eligible for many of these critics' circle awards because it had played off-Broadway the year before.

(Regardless of which show is better, I think Avenue Q's Tony win bodes much better for Broadway's artistic community than had Wicked won; you don't always have to reward the big blockbuster of the season just because it's selling out.)

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re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:45pm

Actually, a SMALL group of Wicked fans booed from the balcony when Avenue Q won - the sound that was heard in Radio City when Avenue Q won was a huge screaming CHEER. BSoBW2 seems to have left that part out. The house was decidedly PRO-Q - thus, they won. And the reason Wicked won the Drama Desk is that Avenue Q was not eligible because they were eligible for the off-b'way run the year before against Hairspray. So it was not all that shocking.

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#24

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Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:46pm

Anytime someone writes a show as brilliant as "Ragtime" and it doesn't win, I'm in shock.

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#25

re: Most shocking Tony moment

Posted: 12/28/04 at 10:53pm

Obviously Avenue Q winning Best Musical last season.

I too was quite shocked when Bernadette lost to Marissa! Sorry. It's been, what, almost 3 seasons and I'm still pissed about that one. After Bernadette performed "Rose's Turn" and shortly there after lost the Tony, I feel certain many of those Winokur voters had to have been kicking themselves in the rear.

Anddd...

Idina winning this year pleasantly surprised me. I felt certain that it was going to Tonya, because the last few weeks before the ceremony, there was a huge push for her in that category. Menzel was my personal favorite. She won, and I feel rightfully so. This is (soon to be was) her career-defining role.