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#1

My thoughts on the Tonys

Billy Joel opening:
If you're a REAL New Yorker, this moved you to tears. One of NYC's hometown heroes playing in the middle of Times Square, with all the lights and neon reflected in the top of his piano. Kudos to whoever thought up this highly original staging.

"The Brodericks":
He can get away with claiming to be a geek, but it was pretty annoying coming from her. First geek I know to wear a see-through dress. This is typical populist-poseuring by an overexposed celeb. It's become a cliche for supermodels and other glamour gals to claim they were/are geeks. This predilection tends to increase as a celeb gets richer and more hyped (see Jenny From the Block).

Musical numbers:
I was glad to see a return to one entire number instead of a medley (aka a mishmash) from nominated musicals, as Hairspray, Nine, Gypsy, Man of La Mancha did. I'd been complaining for the past few years about all the medleys (sometimes half a dozen songs from one show!), probably done in an attempt to get all featured and lead performers onstage. But you showcase a production much better with one solid number (let those who aren't in it take a bow if you want to get them onstage). The two shows that did medleys, Movin' Out and La Boheme, looked hyperkinetic.

The Kiss:
It's hilarious this occurred right after producers had so obviously frontloaded the show with famous-outside-of-Broadway stars in order to draw in the non-theater crowd. You could just hear advertisers crying, "Aah! We just lost Middle America!"

Def Poetry Jam:
Why did the white guy do most of the talking? Was that part of the aforementioned attempt to keep Middle America tuned in?
I liked the outdoor, what's-wrong-with-America piece (except the miking was faulty), but there should have been only one excerpt from this show.

Omission:
Why no mention of Les Miz's passing?

Brian Stokes Mitchell & Bernadette Peters:
For any newbies who were watching, here's your Broadway musical primer: arguably the greatest female musical role and the greatest male musical role, demonstrated by two performers with star quality to burn and a great Bway pedigree.

Melanie Griffith:
So, what, did she attend every Nine rehearsal and now got herself a job across the street? Looks like somebody wants to make sure her hubby doesn't Guido, if you know what I mean. Jane Krakowski thanking her "for sharing Antonio with us"? When has that ever happened before--people are always winning Tonys, Oscars, Emmys for playing opposite (good-looking) people who are married in real life. Too bad Edie Falco didn't get nominated and win, so she could have thanked Stanley Tucci's wife for sharing him with her.

Overall:
Definitely entertaining. Seemed a lot more vibrant than years past.

Updated On: 6/10/03 at 10:11 PM

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To tell ya the truth, Sarah Jessica Parker really is a geek. She was a total nerd growing up, she loves theater (lol who doesn't), and she looks foward to the annual national spelling bee. If it wasn't for "Sex in the City" people wouldn't even consider her to be a sex symbol or glamorous. I don't think she's pretty at all; more like adorable in a goofy way. I did not like her dress at the Tony's, but I loved her and Matthew's banter.
"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~

Updated On: 6/11/03 at 11:21 PM

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Great rundown and comments on the show, Frontrow. I quibble with one point, however, re the musical numbers. I failed to see how the Nine # really gave an accurate picture of the show. I think some kind of medley might have worked better for this show.

Why? Well, four performers were nominated, but we only heard Antonio. I would have liked to hear a bit from Chita, Jane, and Mary Stuart. Don't ask me how, I'm not an arranger, but I'm sure it could've been done.

Maybe since Jane's Simple, MSM's Be On Your Own, and Antonio's I Can't Make this Movie are back to back to back in the show, they could have done snippets of all three in the 5 or 6 minutes they had. That leaves out Chita, but at least it's 3 out of 4 instead of 1 out of 4.

hrh
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I agree that I hate medleys and I'm glad that they were kept to a minimum. As most of you can tell I thought the best performances of the night were given by the Bernadette (with her heart wrenching portrayal of Mama Rose), BSM, and the stunning dancers of Movin' Out (all of which got standing ovations, understandbly). I'm not sure how the Movin' Out number looked on the stage at the theater (might have looked a little caotic there), but it was choreographed beautifully for television. I am still amazed by what those dancers can do. Nine is a wonderful show, but they picked a really poor song to do. I'm sure that they wanted to show off Antonio but I don't feel as if any of his songs would have been good for the Tony awards. The Nine performance will certainly not draw any attention with Guido's Song. I think they would have been much wiser to do Call to the Vatican or Follies Bergeres. Hairspray as usual was horrible. Jerry Mitchells choreography is a huge mess, lacking any sense of structure, and is sadly no better than a high school production of Bye, Bye Birdie. Marissa was flat the whole time she was singing and even Harvey looked off. I still think they should have done "Welcome to the 60's" which is a much better song, with one of the few good aspects of the show (the Dynamites.) I would loved to have seen something from Amour, the little clips of music that I heard were so beautiful. Overall I thought it was a very good show, and I never found that it dragged (except for maybe the second performance by Def Poetry Jam- the sound was pretty bad.) While Frog and Toad wasn't great, I love the fact that a children's theater show was given the recognition it was given. And I would hope that more family shows would be like this, instead of the continual flow of Disney trash.
Finally I have to say that I'm really upset by the mention of all the new musicals that are being developed based on movies. Have producers, playwrights and composers lost their sense of creativity? MAKE SOMETHING NEW!! No more Hairspray crap!
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re: Movies to Musicals

I think that producers feel these days that recognizable projects will sell more tickets. What we need isn't more creativity, because that's already out there. What we need is more risk-takers. With the economics of Broadway these days though, they are few and far between.
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Babyface is absolutely correct! Risk taking producers of Broadway theater are very few and decades between. There are many many creative talents creating for the theater in NYC alone every day. Producers on the otherhand want a guaranteed sure bet. The socio-economics of American culture and society have changed the dymanics of the Broadway theatre. There are not stars who hone their crafting perfoming live on stage. There are no producers who believe in a project and trust their instinct without relying on focus groups. Where are the David Merricks of today's Broadway?
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Risk Taking

I'll tell ya, some of the most creative theater pieces I've seen have been done by the Drama Department. My favorite is Mondo Drama by Dougas Carter Beane. That man is a genius. I would love to see that go to Broadway, or even off Broadway (rather than the village). But Producers and tourists are scared of risk or truth.
"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~
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I really want to see MONDO DRAMA
Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."
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Well, you better hurry. It closes in 3 days.
"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~
#10

Anyway-

Back to what FrontRow was saying, I agreed with everything he said. I, too, think that Broadway producers do need to start finding some new written material and put it on stage. I think your opinions were put rather rudely, bestofbroadway. I disagree. I dont think that Hairspray is crap. I think it's probably one of the best, if not the best, musical that came out this year. No, Marissa's performance was not great, but I doubt its like that every night. I think the dancing is cute. Perfect for the time period as well. The best performance for me was a tie between Gypsy and Hairspray, and my least favorite was La Boheme.
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Billy,

Every message you post on this message board absolutely glistens. Keep up the good work!
"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)
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I have to agree with you Front Row, Melanie Griffith is beyond annoying. She acts so possessive. I am sure she waits in the limo when he comes out of the stagedoor. She even has to hold his arm when they were seated. Well when you take another's woman's husband, what does she expect? All that plastic surgery to make herself youthful made her look plastic. Then to get a role in a show across the street........ugh
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by moments that take our breath away." "Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain."
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Melanie's mere presence annoys me. I can probably name one or two of her movies that I actually liked, but that was the story and character that I liked...not necessarily her.
I'm just glad that I'm able to seperate a person from the character they play on screen, otherwise I would miss out on a lot of good movies and films. For example, I think Ashley Judd is a great actress, but I hate her as a person.
"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~
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In regards to Melanie, I´ve been at the stage door at Nine a few times, and she has always been really nice to the fans who are crazy for Antonio and even signs things herself. Still, I can´t help but picture this vision in my mind of her stabbing a voodoo doll of Jane Krakowski every time she performs A Call From the Vatican. re: re: re: My thoughts on the Tonys

Having seen Hairspray this week, I don´t think that it´s the best musical of the year (I´d have to give that to Movin´ Out), but it´s definitely not crap! The performances are usually VERY underwhelming on T.V., and because of those I was prepared to hate the show, but I ended up loving it sheerly for its entertainment value and energy. It was the most fun I´ve had at the theatre in a long time, and I was up on my feet singing out the lyrics to You Can´t Stop the Beat at the finale.


As for the Nine song, it was one of the only songs where they could truly include everyone in the cast. One of the goals of Tony numbers is to include as many cast members as possible while making viewers want to see the show. By doing Guido´s Song, they showed T.V. audiences every member of the cast (including Jane in her sheer dress) and showcased Antonio Banderas, who is really the main draw for the tourist crowd. Doing A Call From the Vatican or Folies Bergere also would have revealed a secret element of the show that the producers don´t want audiences to see before they get to the show. I won´t say them, because there are those who have yet to see the show and probably want those things kept a secret.

Just my (not so) little contribution re: re: re: My thoughts on the Tonys
"Peace! The charm's wound up." --Macbeth

Updated On: 6/15/03 at 09:21 PM

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Billy Lawlor- I tend to blow things up a little if you haven't noticed already. People tell me I should be a New York Times or Post critic because I always say it was the best thing I have ever seen or the worst thing I've ever seen...haha. Hairspray is just not my cup of tea and I'm afraid that musical theater is heading in the direction of more campy musicals just like it and that worries me. It is the best "musical" to come out this year, but what's it's competition. I don't think any of the musicals that came out this year were any good. Movin' Out was by far the best show, although I don't consider it a musical. But as everyone here knows Marissa does not impress me (every time I have seen her I have found her obnoxious and piercing to the ears- not exaggerating that) and Jerry Mitchell's choreography does absolutely nothing for me. I really believe that it lacks any sense of form or focus. That's just my opinion.

Updated On: 6/16/03 at 09:12 AM

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::sarcastic:: yes, because ALL musicals should be like Gypsy, Les Miz, and Phantom and all 'fluff' shows are crap that should never be produced.


One again, marissa's character voice works for the role. That is why she developed it. JUST becasue she beat out Bernadette doesn't not make her obnoxious... it's like the person on ATC who said she should not have won becasue she is 'fat'.
Mitchell's choreograophy isn't SUPPOSED to be groundbreaking and innoventive. He was taking advantage of actual dances from 1962... accuracy to the time period, so of course it will be stuff that has been seen. He has also staed that one of the goals was to do the choreo so that the audience could pick up on it. That was the point. His choreo served it's purpose well.

Not every show is Gypsy, Les Miz, or Movin' Out and the should NOT have to be. Theatre is a greatly varied art. There is room for the depp and meaning ful and the light anf fluffy. Get over it.
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Broadwayguy2- calm down! For the last time flat does not equal character voice. There are other girls who play the role that I prefer much better and they use character voices but aren't consistently flat. You're right that just because she beat out Bernadette doesn't make her obnoxious. She was obnoxious long before Bernadette came around in Gypsy. I think you get the impression that I'm on this huge Marissa vs. Bernadette rant. Well I'm not. The two aren't even comparable or in the same league. Not every thing I say about Marissa is a hark back to Bernadette's Tony loss. Marissa is her own person. Marissa and Bernadette aren't connected at the hip. Not every insult thrown at Marissa is praising Bernadette. As for Jerry Mitchell's choreography, you are right that the movements are all appropriate. But I am refering to the structure of his dances. They lack it. I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat the same thing. You know what I think and it's not going to change.

Secondly, who said I wanted all musicals to be like Phantom and Les Miz? Not me. I think Les Miz and Phantom are two of the problems with Broadway (but I won't expand on that now.) I want theater to challenge. I want theater to grow. True, theater is a greatly varied art form. Unfortunately the fact is that musicals are not very varied on Broadway. With Mama Mia, Urban Cowboy, Hairspray and musicals like Shrek, Legally Blond, Catch Me If You Can, Frankenstein, etc. in the works I think the Broadway theater is leaning towards C-A-M-P. I think the last great American musical we have seen is Ragtime. My preferences obviously differ from yours. We don't have to agree. But my question is what happened to the days when new work was supported at the height of musical theater. Where are the Sweeney Todds, Gypsys, West Side Stories, Follies, Chorus Lines and other truly ground breaking musicals of today? I know where they are. Pushed to the side of a producers desk as they make way for thee surge CAMPY material. What's next, Finding Nemo the Musical? (Don't get me wrong loved Finding Nemo- in the MOVIE THEATER!!)

Updated On: 6/16/03 at 10:20 AM

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I don't mind shows like "Hairspray" and "Mama Mia!" I love variety...especially on the stage. I just don't want to see tradition get pushed aside for trendy. And by tradition I do not mean revivals (although I love that new generations can see great classics once in a while), I mean new shows with traditional feeling. Those are a rarity.
"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~
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I guess I just have different expectations for theater and "Mama Mia" and "Hairspray" don't meet any of them. It's fine that others like them. One or two of these CAMPY shows don't bother me but when they overtake Broadway the way they are I become a little upset and lose faith in Broadway and today's producers who lack any taste.
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I'm with you, best of broadway. I'm also not a fan of the "Hairspray". "Mama Mia" type of musical. Basically Les Miz was probably the last one I really loved. So I find I just don't go to musicals any longer. Go to serious dramas and a lot of non-profit theatre. For me by far the best things on Broadway this year were "Long Day's Journey" and Medea".
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yes bestofbroadway.......im sure people always tell you that you should be a critic for the post and the times.....ill bet they also tell you that you are interesting and funny
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I have not seen LONG DAY'S yet, but MEDEA was great. I was kind of surprised she didn't take the Tony, but I also know Redgrave's reputation. I did also enjoy RAGTIME, thought LION KING as a great achievement and amplified the cartoon (plus hopefully let Disney know backing a true artist without micromanaging the product can work), and very much enjoyed IMAGINARY FRIENDS this season.
Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."
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Regarding Producers with a sense of "taste" (Bestofbroadway). Once Producers were showmen, now sadly most are bean counters who think they have artistic taste. Truth is they will mount any show that they think will bring an audience in, highbrow or lowbrow. It would seem these days that lowbrow maybe winning. In London soon they are producing a show based around Rod Stewart songs, argghhhh. What more can I say?

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