Negotiations have broken down!!
#2
Posted: 11/27/07 at 7:57am
Posted: Tuesday, 27 November 2007 7:51AM
Broadway Strike Talks Suspended
NEW YORK (AP) -- THE LATEST: A union representative says negotiations between striking Broadway stagehands and theater producers ended this morning - with no settlement reached.
http://www.wcbs880.com/Broadway-Talks-Suspended/1252717
Broadway Strike Talks Suspended
NEW YORK (AP) -- THE LATEST: A union representative says negotiations between striking Broadway stagehands and theater producers ended this morning - with no settlement reached.
http://www.wcbs880.com/Broadway-Talks-Suspended/1252717
#3
Posted: 11/27/07 at 7:59am
Entertainment Weekly is reporting the same thing. All talks are off until at the earliest tonight at 7pm.
EW
EW
#4
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:00am
Thanks! At least that has a more positive spin, like, "we need to get some sleep, but we're making progress." However, since no one will comment on further negotiations, I am afraid it's a bad sign.
#5
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:02am
Yeah... The EW report sounds more like a break like yesterday. The NY1 thing (which is not on their website yet) makes it sound like it's over.
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#6
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:04am
Playbill is reporting no new talks have been scheduled. Anybody for a game of frustration and confusion?
http://www.playbill.com/news/article/113046.html
http://www.playbill.com/news/article/113046.html
#7
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:05am
Bruce Cohen, Local One spokeperson, is saying (live) that there is no deal, nothing scheduled and he is not blaming it on fatigue. He is saying they broke down because they couldn't come to an agreement on one particular point. He is reiterating that nothing is scheduled.
#8
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:06am
Darn that mopping. I guess they didn't hear about the BWW Mop Brigade.
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#9
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:06am
is the union trying to break Broadway cause its only 30%-40 of the job sites they work ??
just reread the nov. 20th post from the league
To Our Valued Employees:
We are extremely disappointed that we have been unable to reach agreement with Local One. During
talks last Sunday, we offered significant concessions, and there was cause for optimism in the room,
which makes the current impasse all the more frustrating.
We continue to believe strongly that the contract must be modernized. Archaic and inflexible work
rules need to be changed. The industry’s future and the economic well-being of all who work on
Broadway depend on it.
However, we recognized that such change can’t happen overnight. That is why we withdrew many of
our original proposals and agreed to keep most of the work rules intact, in an effort to get a deal.
• We dropped the request to eliminate paying a flyman -- at $160,000 a year -- who has no
work to do.
• We dropped the request that Carpentry Department employees could assist each other,
which forces us to hire more people than we need.
• We wanted to be able to hire two additional stagehands until two weeks after opening to
help the show work out the glitches. We even agreed to pay more to them than the
regular crew. The Union said “no,” only one can be hired, and we said, “OK”.
In addition, the few changes we asked for are reasonable:
• The ability to start a four-hour work call or rehearsal at 2:30 pm rather than 1:00 pm, to
permit us to also set up for that night’s show. The Union said “no.”
• The ability to do a two-hour paid call before the show or a one-hour paid call after the
show to do certain limited work. The Union said “no.”
• We now pay more than $60 an hour, 8 hours per week, to mop a stage – even if it’s
mopped only once. We offered $25,000 to every stagehand who mops, in exchange for
reducing the rate by half, to more than $30 per hour for mopping. The Union said “no.”
The last proposal we presented on Sunday reflected a gradual approach and contained compensation
increases of over 20% for the next five years. Most in the room, on both sides of the table, sensed that a
deal was achievable. That hope was dashed when local leadership countered with an offer that, instead
of building on the positive momentum, moved backward.
Saddest of all, most of Broadway remains dark, and people in the industry and those who depend on it
are suffering needless economic hardship.
The facts are available if you want to learn more. Ask your union leaders and we will be happy to
respond to their questions.
November 20, 2007
just reread the nov. 20th post from the league
To Our Valued Employees:
We are extremely disappointed that we have been unable to reach agreement with Local One. During
talks last Sunday, we offered significant concessions, and there was cause for optimism in the room,
which makes the current impasse all the more frustrating.
We continue to believe strongly that the contract must be modernized. Archaic and inflexible work
rules need to be changed. The industry’s future and the economic well-being of all who work on
Broadway depend on it.
However, we recognized that such change can’t happen overnight. That is why we withdrew many of
our original proposals and agreed to keep most of the work rules intact, in an effort to get a deal.
• We dropped the request to eliminate paying a flyman -- at $160,000 a year -- who has no
work to do.
• We dropped the request that Carpentry Department employees could assist each other,
which forces us to hire more people than we need.
• We wanted to be able to hire two additional stagehands until two weeks after opening to
help the show work out the glitches. We even agreed to pay more to them than the
regular crew. The Union said “no,” only one can be hired, and we said, “OK”.
In addition, the few changes we asked for are reasonable:
• The ability to start a four-hour work call or rehearsal at 2:30 pm rather than 1:00 pm, to
permit us to also set up for that night’s show. The Union said “no.”
• The ability to do a two-hour paid call before the show or a one-hour paid call after the
show to do certain limited work. The Union said “no.”
• We now pay more than $60 an hour, 8 hours per week, to mop a stage – even if it’s
mopped only once. We offered $25,000 to every stagehand who mops, in exchange for
reducing the rate by half, to more than $30 per hour for mopping. The Union said “no.”
The last proposal we presented on Sunday reflected a gradual approach and contained compensation
increases of over 20% for the next five years. Most in the room, on both sides of the table, sensed that a
deal was achievable. That hope was dashed when local leadership countered with an offer that, instead
of building on the positive momentum, moved backward.
Saddest of all, most of Broadway remains dark, and people in the industry and those who depend on it
are suffering needless economic hardship.
The facts are available if you want to learn more. Ask your union leaders and we will be happy to
respond to their questions.
November 20, 2007
#10
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:07am
Bruce Cohen said it was a "quiet" and "mutual" breakdown.
#11
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:08am
Geez-a-lou! I'll mop the floor! Any volunteers wanna help?
#12
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:09am
Oh no, TTJ, I'm certain billynj will soon report that before leaving the stagehands trashed and torched the place.
#13
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:10am
Ugh, I just want everything to work out, this has gone on wayyy too long!
#14
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:10am
oh I'll help Stagefan, hell I'd do it for free right about now!
http://two-sails.blogspot.com/
#15
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:13am
both sides are a bunch of Fking fools, not sure who will win this ... unlike you sheep I dont worsship at the feet of either side in this fight.
F them both at this point
F them both at this point
#16
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:14am
oh bat****---you constantly rail against the union.
#17
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:16am
Stagehands are notorious pillagers, playing practical jokes like turning lights off and on, messing with the sound, moving scenery around, taking candy from babies, that sort of thing. Baaadddd stagehands.
#18
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:18am
Why do they meet all night instead of day talks? It seems to me that they must be exhausted and I would think it's difficult to negotiate with a clear head when you are that tired.
#19
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:22am
I rail against the LOCAL 1 union because I think they are using all the other union folks as their shield.... 335 guys are stopping everyone else from making a living...what kind of collective bargaining is that.
just keep saying this "I am out of work because of a $56.00 per hour floor sweeper"
maybe then you will wake up
if the local one had nothing to hide why don't they publicly tell all of us what they are asking for ...where is the full page ad in the times telling us what they have and what they want its called transparency.
you lose the right to secret negations when your job actions affect so many other peoples right to make a living ...can you understand that idea ... is that idea so outrageous??
just keep saying this "I am out of work because of a $56.00 per hour floor sweeper"
maybe then you will wake up
if the local one had nothing to hide why don't they publicly tell all of us what they are asking for ...where is the full page ad in the times telling us what they have and what they want its called transparency.
you lose the right to secret negations when your job actions affect so many other peoples right to make a living ...can you understand that idea ... is that idea so outrageous??
#20
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:23am
We have one volunteer for mopping! Thanks JKlock! Good start. We'll mop for free, but they have to let us live in theatres. Alright, who's with me!
Future plans:
In three years we'll ask for health benefits.
Future plans:
In three years we'll ask for health benefits.
Updated On: 11/27/07 at 08:23 AM
#21
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:28am
I am well aware of the various issues of this debate on both sides--possibly more so than you.
And the reason I and others go after you has nothing to do with which side of this debate you are on and everything to do with your smug, asshole, know it all, superior tone and posting of a gazillion smarmy threads.
And now you want to act like a "fair and balanced" bystander.
HA!
And baaaaaaa!
And the reason I and others go after you has nothing to do with which side of this debate you are on and everything to do with your smug, asshole, know it all, superior tone and posting of a gazillion smarmy threads.
And now you want to act like a "fair and balanced" bystander.
HA!
And baaaaaaa!
#22
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:31am
"if the local one had nothing to hide why don't they publicly tell all of us what they are asking for ...where is the full page ad in the times telling us what they have and what they want its called transparency.
you lose the right to secret negations when your job actions affect so many other peoples right to make a living ...can you understand that idea ... is that idea so outrageous??"
The same can be said for the League. Why don't they open their books and show the actual numbers? How much they're making on subsidiary rights, concessions, the actual breakdown of costs? If you want transparency it should come from both sides, don't you think?
you lose the right to secret negations when your job actions affect so many other peoples right to make a living ...can you understand that idea ... is that idea so outrageous??"
The same can be said for the League. Why don't they open their books and show the actual numbers? How much they're making on subsidiary rights, concessions, the actual breakdown of costs? If you want transparency it should come from both sides, don't you think?
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Updated On: 11/27/07 at 08:31 AM
#23
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:32am
I am as fair and balanced as FOX NEWS ...I side more with the league but at this point they are mortgaging the short term future of theater
The union is asking all other union members to stand by them, they should at least know what local 1 is asking for ...
The union is asking all other union members to stand by them, they should at least know what local 1 is asking for ...
Updated On: 11/27/07 at 08:32 AM
#24
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:32am
billynj only knows how to copy and paste articles. You expect him to understand the real deal?
#25
Posted: 11/27/07 at 8:33am
"I am as fair and balanced as FOX NEWS "
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL--I agree! I couldn't have said it BETTER!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL--I agree! I couldn't have said it BETTER!
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