No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)- Page 2
No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
logan2
Leading Actor Joined: 6/15/04
#25re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 9:42pm
Okay, I didn't know the plot twists in WICKED because I only have the cd. So Fiyero is the SCARECROW? I don't get it. I always thought from the pictures that it looked like he was wearing the costume of the Flying Monkeys from the film, so I thought she turned him into a flying monkey rather than him be killed or something. Someone please explain why she turns him into the Scarecrow and why would she try to burn him up? Or was that spoiler just a joke and now I have totally made a fool of myself....oh well won't be the first time. Oh by the way
AVENUE Q SUCKS!!!! (see my other post to understand that diatribe)
Leading Actor Joined: 12/31/69
#26re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 9:49pm
***spoilers***
the chant is to save him... hes going to be beaten to death by guards for letting her go and threatening Glinda. She escapes and the chant is 'eleka nahmen natuh eleka nahmen ... let his bones never break and however they try to destroy him let him never die' The idea is that she has these magic powers but not such a good handle on the spell book, she even says in the song she doesnt know what shes reading or what trick she ought to try. She just wants to save him and he turns into a scarecrow. Boq turns into the Tinman after Nessa reads a spell to get rid of his heart (shes upset he still loves Glinda, even though she can now walk due to another spell by Elphaba, turning her shoes red) Elphaba follows Nessa's spell on Boq with a spell so he isnt in pain anymore when Nessa begs her to make it better.
logan2
Leading Actor Joined: 6/15/04
#27re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 9:58pmWOW!! That is interesting!!!! Well, does Elphaba know she turns Fiyero into the Scarecrow? Why would she set him on fire later when he is with Dorothy? Thanks for the info....
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#28re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:03pm
When I wrote that song for the show, it was many a year before the awards season so since it's past I can feel free to share with my Chenowethian minions now.
eleka nahmen nahmen ah tum- Let Idina Fall Of The Stage
ah tum elekah nahmen- So I Can Win The Tony
I guess I shouldn't have bought my book of spells from Target.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#29re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:12pm
actually for a part of the show she thinks shes failed "since i cannot succeed fiyero in saving you... i promise no good deed will i attempt to do again..." but thats probably a continuity issue because when shes *surprise* still alive at the end and he finds her... its as if theyre seeing each other for the first time but he knew where to find her and all...
logan2
Leading Actor Joined: 6/15/04
#30re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:20pmOkay, but why would she set him on fire? More Wicked questions - do they show Dorothy melting the witch or refer to it? I can't tell from the cd how it ends.
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#31re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:22pmSomeone correct me if I'm wrong, but I suppose when she set him on fire she had already cast the spell saying that he can not be harmed, so she did that to keep the image of herself as being "Wicked".
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#32re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:23pm
they never SHOW dorothy but shes certainly around... and alluded to...
yeah i guess it could be that she knew he couldnt die and set him on fire... interesting.
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#33re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:28pmAfter I saw WICKED, I watched WIZARD OF OZ and it was really interesting to watch it knowing what I knew from WICKED. That one scene with the fire really had me thinking for a while.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#34re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:39pm
Matt_G, I am totally and completely enthralled with you and your sense of humor.
Despite the fact that you didn't have the foresight to buy the overpriced Barnes and Noble spellbook.
I starred in a short film called Magnetic Personality. Check it out!
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#35re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:39pm
what i dont understand is that march of the witch hunters song, isnt dorothy supposed to 'happen upon' those characters not meet up with them in a big city where theyre singing about killing the witch? Dorothy is sent out on the yellow brick road when Nessa first dies... where in Wicked does she have time to meet up with all the characters she meets?
#36re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/15/04 at 10:41pm
http://mercy_bell.tripod.com/wickedsynopsis.html
I starred in a short film called Magnetic Personality. Check it out!
sabrelady
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#37re: No Good Deed chant (from Wicked)
Posted: 6/16/04 at 2:04pmMy memory is Dorothy is not named but is seen in a kinda shadow effect just prior to the witch "melting". She is obliquely refered to as in "what kinda sicko(?) steals a dead womans shoes." Of course everyone knows who Elphaba is talking about!
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