#26
Posted: 7/12/05 at 10:23pm
She's talented, no doubt.
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#27
Posted: 7/12/05 at 10:25pm
I agree that she is talented, but I would probably prefer Idina first, then Stephanie, then Eden. I can't imagine what Eden sang in Brooklyn, doing it every night, but that's just me
#28
Posted: 7/12/05 at 10:48pm
I personally think that Eden's voice is a lot richer in quality and tone than Idina's. I like them both - they're both excellent singers and performers. I saw Eden in Brooklyn, and she blew me away, so I can imagine that her Elphaba would be very good. I have heard a few sound clips of her in Wicked, and my jaw dropped.
As for this nonsense about her screaming (and this is where I'm gonna get creamed), the people on this board need to make sure they really understand the mechanics of the human voice and how it works, because frankly - 90% don't know what they're talking about. I have studied voice and taken classes on vocal pedigogy and vocal health - Idina and Eden do not scream - they belt. Eden's "sounds" like screaming due to a different pitch register she has. She obviously knows what she's doing, and can hit the notes - is it exactly good for her voice? Who knows - everyone knows their own instrument - she uses her to its fullest potential. It is not screaming. Please do not say that - it's really quite silly.
Anyway, you'll enjoy Eden. She's marvelous - lucky you for seeing her!
As for this nonsense about her screaming (and this is where I'm gonna get creamed), the people on this board need to make sure they really understand the mechanics of the human voice and how it works, because frankly - 90% don't know what they're talking about. I have studied voice and taken classes on vocal pedigogy and vocal health - Idina and Eden do not scream - they belt. Eden's "sounds" like screaming due to a different pitch register she has. She obviously knows what she's doing, and can hit the notes - is it exactly good for her voice? Who knows - everyone knows their own instrument - she uses her to its fullest potential. It is not screaming. Please do not say that - it's really quite silly.
Anyway, you'll enjoy Eden. She's marvelous - lucky you for seeing her!
#29
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:04pm
Eden is an amazing performer! As Elphie, she is much closer to Idina than Stephanie but she really makes the role her own. Her voice is beautiful and she has a terrific presence on stage. She is completely worth the 12 hour drive, especially since you already have tickets.
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#30
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:29pm
I can't stand when people who simply don't like the perform start attacking their vocal tech. and ability. I've said it once, I've said it a million times. If they were "screaming," there's NO WAY their voices would hold up as they do. Janis Joplin screamed. It was great for that kind of music, don't get me wrong, but THAT'S screaming...Eden and Idina have high belts...it's a pitch thing.
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#31
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:33pm
Eden is excellent as Elphaba.
#32
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:45pm
Eden is incredible is Elphaba. I love her so much! Her voice is amazing, "You gotta HEAR it to believe it"
#33
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:46pm
Eden offered a chilling and moving performance as the girl in green- I bought tickets knowing that she would be performing when I saw her last June- Her vocals soared and her acting was spot on...She took an excellent peformance (by the lovely Idina Menzel) and put her own spin on a variety of acting choices which in my opinion, were fantastic: I'm sure her SF Elphaba will offer a model of commanding power and a unique girl's journey towards an ultimately prevailing woman.
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#34
Posted: 7/12/05 at 11:48pm
Do you guys have any recordings of her in Wicked that you can link me to? I'd like to hear her.
#35
Posted: 7/13/05 at 12:38am
Eden was the first Elphaba I ever saw, and I loved her. She's still no. 1 on my list. You're in good hands. I'm thinking of making the drive up there just to see her as Elphaba again.
#36
Posted: 7/13/05 at 1:10am
i'm partial to her "what is this feeling" minimally from the clip i heard she actually did an impression of glinda (at that point cheno) for the "you're voice" line
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#37
Posted: 7/13/05 at 5:03am
eden was a great elphaba. she was certainly very different, especially her vocals - with some slightly odd riffs, scats and slides, but it all fits in with the part of elphaba as far as i'm concerned
she was great, but not the best. i honestly think shoshana is, but that is my opinion. idina will always be the original
she was great, but not the best. i honestly think shoshana is, but that is my opinion. idina will always be the original
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#38
Posted: 7/13/05 at 9:07am
Eden is FAB. Yes she screams in Brooklyn but that's bc she belts like a high G. (haha I know I know... i stole the joke from broadway abridged... so sue me!) but seriously, Wicked doesn't require her to go as high so she doesn't scream and she sounds GREAT. she does a different take on the ending of DG and it gives me chills.
every time she took over for Idina, she brought down the house and completely stole the audience. she won't disappoint. don't worry. go see it-- you *will* LOVE her.
every time she took over for Idina, she brought down the house and completely stole the audience. she won't disappoint. don't worry. go see it-- you *will* LOVE her.
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#39
Posted: 7/13/05 at 9:20am
Mad4, I have to agree with Shines---I first saw Eden as Elphie and was initially disappointed I wasn't going to see Idina. However, her performance was amazing and she received a standing ovation a few times thro-out the night. I later saw Idina and loved her too but Eden really stood out IMO. I also saw her in Brooklyn---(I have to admit I personally loved Ramona Keller's performance a bit more, but it was more the songs and character, I think). All in all----ENJOY Eden---You will definitely will glad you saw her. Please write after you see it!
#40
Posted: 7/13/05 at 11:18am
"i'm partial to her "what is this feeling" minimally from the clip i heard she actually did an impression of glinda (at that point cheno) for the "you're voice" line"
Stephanie did that both times i saw her.
Stephanie did that both times i saw her.
#41
Posted: 7/13/05 at 12:36pm
Shoshana does it as well.
#42
Posted: 7/13/05 at 3:12pm
#43
Posted: 7/13/05 at 4:44pm
I heard the Brooklyn cast recording and was disappointed but when I saw the play live, I was amazed at her voice.
In other words, I truly believe she comes across live very well.
You should go and let us know how she was.
In other words, I truly believe she comes across live very well.
You should go and let us know how she was.
#44
Eden is FANTASTIC!!!
Her "Wizard and I" is so well acted and sung, I got chills when I saw her do it. I really felt like jumping up on stage and getting excited with her as she dreamt of meeting the Wizard. That is how engaging she was. Terrific! And her singing was just unreal. The girl can SING. I didn't enjoy Brooklyn too much, but I LOVED what she did with Wicked as Elphaba. I hope she comes back and does it on Broadway, because I actually preferred her over Idina BIG time! (Although Idina was VERY good)
Cheers,
The Balladeer
Posted: 7/13/05 at 6:06pm
Eden is FANTASTIC!!!
Her "Wizard and I" is so well acted and sung, I got chills when I saw her do it. I really felt like jumping up on stage and getting excited with her as she dreamt of meeting the Wizard. That is how engaging she was. Terrific! And her singing was just unreal. The girl can SING. I didn't enjoy Brooklyn too much, but I LOVED what she did with Wicked as Elphaba. I hope she comes back and does it on Broadway, because I actually preferred her over Idina BIG time! (Although Idina was VERY good)
Cheers,
The Balladeer
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#45
Posted: 7/13/05 at 7:19pm
Eh...I've heard some of her Wicked clips which were ok. The only time I've seen her is when she was singing Once Upon A Time on TV...and she was quite annoying, and she looked like she was going to explode. But maybe she's ok in Wicked, I don't know.
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#46
Posted: 7/13/05 at 8:37pm
Pinguin, you should listen to more from Eden and then you could get a better idea of what she is like as a singer. She's an incredible performer. Theballadeer, I'm glad you enjoyed Eden's performance so much...I really wish I could see her in the role.
#47
Posted: 7/13/05 at 8:44pm
Saw her live in BKLYN, heard clips of her in Wicked, and the BKLYN CD....I got a headache.
She just doesn't shine off the stage...well, shine past Ramona....
She just doesn't shine off the stage...well, shine past Ramona....
#48
Posted: 7/13/05 at 8:47pm
She's my favourite Elphaba, I saw her first night on and she was phenomenal
#49
Posted: 7/29/05 at 2:19am
umm...She is amazing. There are several sound clips floating around of her singing all the songs in Wicked if you search on Ares, or Morpheus, or BearShare. She is much better than Idina, she has more control.
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