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#1

Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 5:23pm

what do you guys think??I JUST got back from seeing it...I think they should have gotten people who could sing instead of having them lip sing..that REALLY bugged me..but what do you think??
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#2

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 5:25pm

I agree but still thought it was good. Just hoping that the RENT movie is better than Phantom.
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#3

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 5:26pm

me to I can't WAIT till RENT comes out!!
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#4

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 5:35pm

i havent seen it yet..but i really want to. did the actors lipsych to another singer? or to their own voices? cause im pretty sure in most movies they lipsynch, just because it comes out sounded better.
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#5

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 7:45pm

All of the actors lip-synched their OWN vocals, except Minnie Driver as Carlotta, who lip-synched the vocals of Margaret Preece.

I just realized that Emmy Rossum is not qualified (vocally) to play Christine. She did a great job in the film, don't get me wrong, but the music was altered for her during the title song. In the actual version, there is a key change during the part "In all your fantasies, you always knew...", which continues through the rest of the song including the vocalizing at the end. But in the film version, that one verse was cut, in turn eliminating the key change, keeping the vocalizing at the end down a key or two, so she doesn't sing the high C at the end.

I couldn't believe I didn't recognize this until just recently. I feel dumb.
#7

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 9:04pm

All actors do voice overs in musical movies...even in Chicago. They prerecord it. I too loved the movie, I thought it was beautiful. I didnt really like Gerard Butler until I saw him in it. They were all great. But yeah, even in the old 50's and 60's musical movies they all did voice overs
#8

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 9:32pm

The elimination of the fourth verse in the title song in the PHANTOM film did not result in that drastic a key change. While stage Christines sing a high E natural at the end of the title song, Emmy sang just a half step below that, which is an E-flat/D sharp, a note that is still somewhat up in the stratosphere. Emmy's vocal technique will improve with further training. I think that for someone who was 16/17 years old at the time of filming and recording the score, she did a great job.
#9

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 9:34pm

Yes, the vocals are pre-recorded in a studio so that the sound engineers can mix the music, nat sound (natural sound), and vocal(s) together. This also allows for processing to be added to the performer's voice.

Most of the movie is not shot in sequence. The video and the audio are pieced together in the final editing process. If the performer had to sing the song on set, it would be nearly impossible to shoot some of the scenes. Plus, it would sound horrible.
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#10

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 9:48pm

::forgets name of movie::

But Barabara Streisand did a movie in which she actually sang - they didn't use voiceovers...
#11

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 9:52pm

I enjoyed the movie emensley, even Butler. re: Phantom of the Opera Movie I thought Rossum, Butler, and Wilson were brilliant with their acting and vocals, and Minnie Driver was hilarious.

Joshua, you sure about that? The high C at the end? In the original, it's an E, not a C. Do you mean she sang a C? Although I thought with the elimination of the last verse it would have put the final note at a D ... but I'm not too familiar with the music.
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#12

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 10:01pm

Drench, I agree with you. Glad you liked the movie...
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#13

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 10:11pm

Oh, I'm sorry! I have the sheet music right in front of me... I just misread the note. Oops! re: Phantom of the Opera Movie Thank you!

Barbra Streisand sang live vocals in YENTL and FUNNY GIRL, I believe. DON'T QUOTE ME ON IT!! On her episode of INSIDE THE ACTORS STUDIO, she commented on how she wasn't comfortable with lip-synching to pre-recorded vocals because when she acts, her emotions aren't pre-planned, which would then affect how she would sing the song. So she opted to sing the vocals live.
#14

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 10:19pm

You're right, Ms. "shoot me from my left side only" Steisand does claim to have sung her vocals "straight to tape." She is probably the exception to the rule. Other than that, it just doesn't happen in movie-land, and as a viewer, you wouldn't want it to.
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#15

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 10:27pm

huh? Elphiesbiggestfan, the only singing voice dubbed in The Phantom of the Opera film was Minnie Driver's.
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#16

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 10:29pm

WishIHadaTony... She was asking about lip-singing in the movie. All sang their own vocal track to use to lip-sing in the movie. Mini Driver did not record her own vocals.
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Updated On: 2/5/05 at 10:29 PM

#17

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/5/05 at 10:53pm

I thought the movie was okay. re: Phantom of the Opera Movie
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#18

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/6/05 at 3:55am

there's no such thing as "Lip-Sing". you guys mean LIP SYNCH.
it's when you move your lips in synch to pre-recorded vocals.

just because someone lip synchs it doesn't necesarily mean they did not sing. they could actually be lip synching to their own pre-recorded voice.

the process is usually used in motion pictures, but is also used on the stage, especially when there is a number with alot of choreography involved.

when a performer didn't perform a song and they lip synch to someone elses' voice then that's called dubbing.

in some dubbing cases a perfromer may have lip synched to their own track and then at the last minute the producer doesn't like the performance so he goes out and hires another singer to come in and record (in a studio) over the pre-existing vocals.
#19

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/6/05 at 8:56am

Save for Emmy Rossum, I hated every minute of it.

Go see "Hotel Rwanda" instead!
#20

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/6/05 at 10:26am

LOVED it. I thought it was visually beautiful, and bringing the classic to the big screen was a great idea, and carried through very well...
awkward.

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#23

re: Phantom of the Opera Movie

Posted: 2/6/05 at 1:39pm

Minnie Driver was the best part of Phantom....

The voices looked terribly off from the mouth movements....

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