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Phantom of the Opera film. Just saw it... yikes...

Phantom of the Opera film.  Just saw it... yikes...

I've seen the movie. Twice. And no it isn't out yet. We held the Canadian premiere of the film at my work- The Elgin and Winter Garden Theatre Centre. Colm Wilkinson was there (the original Phantom in T.O. and Gerard Butler- the film Phantom- was there, too.) Big whoop. It was a fun event but the film disappointed me overall. I went in hoping to love it, you know? After all, PotO was the first musical I had ever seen, and to this day it can actually be a wonderful piece of theatre- when done properly, of course.

My biggest let down was the fact that the cast couldn't sing. I mean Emmy Rossum (Christine) was really airy and I was expecting her voice to blow me away. And don't get me started on the Phantom... In a word, terrible. His accent makes him sound like he has a speech impediment. Clearly not trained as a singer at all and the quality of his voice really made me grown in my seat. SEVERAL TIMES! He really needs to learn how to sing vowels properly and hello, those straight tones and that damned falsetto voice isn't impressing anyone. At least not anyone that knows what they are talking about. The biggest surprise was with Minnie Driver. Wow, who knew she was a legit soprano!? Unfortunately, most the remaining supporting cast couldn't sing much, either. That is, with the exception of Patrick Wilson- in fact I thought he gave the strongest performance in the film.

The art direction (sets) is incredible. The costumes are even better. And I absolutely loved the "Masquerade" sequence. It was the finest part of the film. Sadly everything else was a let down. The direction of the film (ala Joel Schumacher) was inconsistent at best. In fact the man should be shot for the talentless phoney he is. He should go back to his original profession. Oh lord, and the editing is terrible. So much so, that certain scenes come off as cheesey at best.

What can I say... I wanted to love it. It is my favourite Andrew Lloyd Webber musical. Still, this falls on its scarred face over and over again.

Anyone see it yet?

--M--

Updated On: 12/19/04 at 12:18 AM

#3

re: Phantom of the Opera film. Just saw it... yikes...

Not surprised. Although I thought I read in Schumacher's contract that he made it clear that all performers had to do their own work. Either way, it just ads to the **** pile that was the film, instead of the incredible piece of movie magic that it could have been.

--M--
#5

re: Phantom of the Opera film. Just saw it... yikes...

In film? Costume designer. And his knack for them is exemplified in this film. When else does such a queen with a HUGE budget get to dress people up in such incredible and romantic costumes!?

Most of his work is terrible, otherwise.

--M--
#6

re: Phantom of the Opera film. Just saw it... yikes...

Gang, Butler's voice is horrible. Simple. Period. You don't cast someone who cannot sing in one of the most popular roles written for a man on the stage.

No doubt Schumacher got excited at the site of Butler's good looks at the auditions, and that clouded his less than stellar artistic faculties.

Patrick Wilson can sing and act his role quite well. Butler can not do much of either. Seriously, wait until you see it. He is terrible. He moves without grace or cunning. Like a poor man's Batman, actually. (Thanks again Schumacher.) And whenever he embraces Christine, the lack of passion is astounding.

But if you don't beleive me, watch it again and count how many unmotivated gestures Butler has throughout the picture. This man was clearly out of his element with this genre.

Schumacher is out of his element with every film, but at least I was expecting that going in...

--M--
#8

Phantom of the Opera film. Just saw it... yikes...

Oh my god he is sooooooo flamming. Any man that opts to put nipples on Batman's costume must be queerer than most queers.

Seriously, he is quite quite quite gay.

Phantom of the Opera film.  Just saw it... yikes...

--M--
#9

Said it before, I'll say it again...

The "Masquerade" sequence was fantastic. The fan work is great. After that? It is all dependant on how willing you are to forgive the film.

--M--
#10

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I foorgot about the Batman nipples. Were they on the costume in the fisrt film though because remember Tim Burton was the director for the first two Batman movies.

#11

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No they were not on in the first two films. Tim Burton wouldn't do a thing like that...

Said it before, I'll say it again...

--M--
#12

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Schumacher started out in NYC as a window-dresser. He's been best buds with Liz Smith, the gossip columnist, since the '50s. Shared a house with her in the Hamptons long before either of them was well known. He's gayer than a tree full of parrots, and don't ask about his many "discoveries" since he became a director, the most recent (and notorious) being Colin Farrell.
#13

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Hee...tree full of parrots. Heh.


What's the general consensus from critics and fans been of the movie? (Save for the GG nod.) Of course I'll still be seeing the movie. I got the 2CD ST a couple of weeks ago and still haven't gotten around to opening it yet. I've got high expectations for this film, but I'm going in cautiously optimistic.

I'm glad you liked Masquerade. That's my favorite part of the show and that's what I kept visualizing when I heard about the film - I just kept thinking it would look amazing cinematically.
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#14

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"What's the general consensus from critics and fans been of the movie?"

Mixed, for the most part. This movie will be one of those love it or hate it films. Some have raved about it and some have said it needs to be buried and never see the light of day again. Just depends. :) I, personally, love Gerard's voice. It's raw and edgy and is definitely a new twist. Plus he puts a ton of emotion behind it.

Emmy's is the same. Her voice is pure. Personally, I prefer her voice over most Christine's I've heard (which, to be fair, is only 2) because it's *not* really operatic at all.. and to sound like that at 16/17 years old? I'm amazed, honestly.

The only singing Minnie did for the movie was the song "Learn To Be Lonely" that plays over the credits.
#15

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I have not seen the movie yet, but I almost don't want to because that guys voice is HORRIBLE. It sounds so flat and has no life. He is wrecking those songs. Anyway the cinematography of the movie makes it look cheap and like it's a re-enactment scene for the History Channel.
#17

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I also thought this movie was bad. I was just so bored.
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#18

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Thanks for this review! I've thought the same thing of Emmy from every clip I've heard- just not impressed- which is really dissapointing.
I forgot you were in T.O. I love the Elgin/ Winter Garden!
#19

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I'm thinking of bringing headphones with the OBCR of POTO while watching the movie.
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#20

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I'm still very excited....!
awkward.

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#21

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That might not be a bad idea. I'm going to a screening on Tuesday and in a way, I'm dreading it.
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#22

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I think we all just need to realize that the rest of the world doesn't care how GOOD a singer someone is, but just that they're not horribly out of tune. I've heard the CD and everyone hits their notes, and that's all that anyone cares about. I haven't seen the movie yet, but the fact that it's getting all these Golden Globe and Critics Award nominations, then I doubt it can be that bad. I'll be seeing it on Wednesday.
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#23

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I saw it yesterday ! I liked it because I love the show and I went there wanting to like it ! My two friends who haven't seen the show thought it was just ok ! I didn't find Gerard terrible but I didn't find him fantastic either. Emmy was great and she is so beautiful. Patrick and Minnie are the best though. The sets and costumes were incredible, but in two scenes especially(the Opera rooftop and the graveyard) it is so obvious they are on a soundstage, that I was annoyed ! Even in the theater, the wonderful Paris view from the rooftop, is more realistic !

Take care
#24

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I hate to dissapoint you; but a golden globe nomination means the studio has been wining and dining the foreign press. It means nothing. The movie is dreadful. I agree with the poster that said most of the worlsd doesn't care about the singer voices. howvere; the fact that they are boring on screen, have no chemistry, and are interchangeable with anyone of the chorus; won't go unnoticed.
HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!
#25

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I listened to most of the soundtrack last night for the first time so forgive me if this has already been discussed.

Am I the only one who thinks Gerard's growl sounded like a gutteral Fat Bastard?
"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell

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