Pimpernel Revisions
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#0Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/23/05 at 5:54pm
Why was it revised so many times? What was the story behind the changes?
Updated On: 7/23/05 at 05:54 PM
#1re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/23/05 at 5:58pmI think it was based on a book, bit sure why it was changed so much. At least I think this is what you are asking.
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#2re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/23/05 at 8:41pmBecause they did not take advantage of touring the show or getting all the wrinkles out before going to Broadway. They had to revise due to poor reviews and poor sales.
#3re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/23/05 at 9:42pmI've always liked The Scarlet Pimpernel. Kind of cheesy some may say but oh well!
Marguerite Chauvelin
Broadway Star Joined: 7/19/05
#4re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/23/05 at 11:14pmIt was a great show, but the revisions seemed to weaken it. I liked the whole cast singing 'Madame Guillotine' and they seemed to cut down on Marguerite too much by taking out 'Vivez' and 'Only Love'.
Percy: Sink me! If it isn't Javvurt!
Javert: Zsah-vair, it's pronounced Zsah-vair.
Pecry: But it's spelled J-A-V-E-R-T Javvurt.
Javert: Repeat after me Zsah...Zsah....
Percy: Oh! Zsa-Zsa! Like the Gabor sister! Well I personally have always prefered Eva.
Javert: (Looks for gun)
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
QueenS
Leading Actor Joined: 8/15/03
#6re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/29/05 at 2:18pm
They kept trying to make it better, not only by revising it, but by recasting it. I personally liked the second cast much better than the other 2, but I agree that the more they tinkered, the worse it got.
Some things that I loved got cut and things I never thought worked stayed in all 3 versions.
By the time they reopened in the smaller theatre with a smaller set and fewer cast members, it sadly looked like a fairly good regional production. One of the things I remember most was that they didn't cut down the huge, ongoing musical keychange/interlude in "Into the Fire" where the set had dramatically changed from the drawing room to the boat. The men were saddled with extra time as the two dimensional "prow" of the boat was placed in front of them. It was kind of sad.
Hindsight being 20/20, the second cast with the first script (with the tiniest of edits) might have been a good show.
I think by the third time they opened, they tried to get the Tony committee to consider them a revival, but that didn't go over too well (and may not even be true).
#7re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:06pmI like 3.0 best. I'm glad it's the only one currently available for licensing. it's the most touching, heartfelt and hilarious thing I've ever seen on a stage and the only time I actually cried. once in act one because of ad-libs and once in act two when Marguerite sang "I'll Forget You"... good stuff.
#8re: Pimpernel Revisions
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:10pmI saw the first one and found it to be terribly painful. I couldn't bring myself to go back and see the revised ones. Besides, it's kinda a bad omen if you have to close a Broadway show and rework it then close it down again and rework it some more. That is what workshops and out of town try outs are for. The producers lost their @ss on that show(s).
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