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#1

Pocahontas

I saw Pocahontas again last night and I was surprised at how well it lends itself to a broadway score. I was also amazed at how well the set does. Obviously there would be a few complications, Meeko and Flit and that dog. But they could be played by children or puppets (flit) and it's not like they sing, or even talk. Schwartz could add more songs and they could not pull a mermaid again.
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Your forgetting the fact that most people find Disney's Pocahontas highly offensive. It would need a lot more work then you suggest.
#4

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Maybe it's me, but I swear to God that that movie totally follows the structure of the score to West Side Story. Like, basically every song in Pocahontas serves the same function in the story as a song in West Side Story. Except Colors of the Wind. Because that was just the random power ballad mandatory in these things.

Updated On: 10/11/08 at 11:57 AM

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If we're going to put a revisionist history racially problematic Disney musical going on Broadway I would much rather go see Mulan. That story could be expanded easily whereas I don't think Pocahontas would be as easy.
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im sorry if im out of the loop, but where did you see this?
#7

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On DVD?
#8

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If we're going to put a revisionist history racially problematic Disney musical going on Broadway I would much rather go see Mulan.

I agree. Mulan could work beautifully on stage.
"You drank a charm to kill John Proctor's wife! You drank a charm to kill Goody Proctor!" - Betty Parris to Abigail Williams in Arthur Miller's The Crucible
#9

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This comes up every six months or so. Lots of reasons it won't happen, but first and foremost is that it would be relatively impossible to cast - i.e. in this politically correct world, where are you going to get a cast of 40 American Indian singer and dancers.
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Eh? How is Pocahontas revisionist history?
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
#11

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I think Pocahontas would be great musical. I think it would be a beautiful show. Mulan would be good too. I think disney needs to start doing people shows. Mary Poppins worked really well because you knew they were actuall people and not a fish or a fork.

#12

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Interesting that you chose fish and fork. Are you hungry??? re: Pocahontas
#13

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Pocahontas is historically inaccurate, but it isn't any less true to its source material than, say, Little Mermaid is to the original fairy tale it's based on. I think most people don't even think of Pocahontas as 'history.' A lot of people don't even know that she's a real person (people in my history classes always seem to be surprised that John Smith was real).

I really like the score in Pocahontas, and I feel like the musical aspect of it would work onstage, but the characterization was so boring in the movie-- no one seemed to have a personality except for Ratcliffe. And I agree that the Indians are really, really stereotypical-- weird for a movie about transcending stereotypes.
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#14

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Disney will NOT bring Pocahontas to Broadway now or in the near future. The Pocahantas show at Disney World' Animal Kingdom had it's final performance on September 27th, 2008. I was lucky enough to have been down there for vacation at that time and caught the final performance. While enjoyable, I can see why Disney closed down this show.

If Disney wasn't seeing the crowds showing up for the Pocahantas performances that are FREE with admission to their park, then they surely wouldn't bring the production to Broadway.
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That Pocahontas show in WDW AK is Pocahontas and her Forest Friends. While it still holds some of the plot of the movie, it is basically an educational show for children to learn about forest animals. Nowhere near what the movie is like. I think if Pocahontas went on Broadway it would be another Aida. It would cause a little bit of interest but not enough to have a long life on Broadway
#16

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"Eh? How is Pocahontas revisionist history?"

From the NY Times review of the film.

"Fathers across America will soon be volunteering in record numbers to take the children to the movies, and here's why: Pocahontas is a babe. She's the first Disney animated heroine since Tinker Bell with great legs, maybe with any legs. She wears form-fitting, off-the-shoulder buckskin that would be as much at home in Beverly Hills as in 17th-century Jamestown. She's got sloe eyes, a rosebud mouth, billowing black hair and terrific muscle tone. And she is the centerpiece of a film that's as great-looking as its heroine.

Meanwhile, among the many things the film neglects to mention: Pocahontas later married a different Englishman and was christened Rebecca. John Smith was punished for insubordination en route from England to Virginia. Pocahontas's saving his life may have been more politic than the melodramatic gesture Captain Smith later made famous. Any damage such revisionist history may impose on young minds is offset by the honestly inspiring thoughts "Pocahontas" offers. In its own decorative way, the film does show how this young American Indian woman played an important role as peacemaker. "Pocahontas" also presents the Virginia woodlands as breathtakingly beautiful and laments the despoiling of such a paradise. Only by aging the brave and precocious Pocahontas from 12 or 13 into the flirty, full-grown vixen she becomes here, and by making her so concerned with finding Mr. Right, does the film send any regrettable message."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE2DC1F3AF930A15755C0A963958260
#17

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Well, that specifically doesn't bother me. It's not revisionist history if your story ends at a certain point. No one is saying that didn't happen after the fact. It's like when Joseph ends happily with Jacob arriving in Egypt instead of going on to tell you that he dies. Of course there's more to the story.
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Agreed. But the smudging of her age and the romantic relationship between Smith and Pocahontas, which most reports dispute, is bothersome.
#19

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I remember being told Pocahontas in real life properly looked more like Marilyn from 'Northern Exposure' then what she did in the animated film.

Saying that it IS a great film with some of the lushest animation, but as to Broadway... meh... there are at least a dozen other animated films I'd rather see on stage first (like 'Anastasia').
#20

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And Hunchback! Even though it's basically Phantom of the Opera. (And Beauty and the Beast...)
#21

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I actually find Hunchback more offensive than Pocahontas in terms of staying true to the source material.
#22

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I actually am with you there BubbyBobby. I dunno why, but I have never liked Hunchback for its disregard for its source material (even when I have no issues with dozens of other works doing it - I dunno why).
#23

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Hercules is even worse than Hunchback, IMO.

And, that isn't really revisionist history. Revisionist history is when one side of an event changes history to make themselves look better. Pocahontas glorifies the Indians more than anything, using the whole "noble savage" approach.
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
#24

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I think this would be good if they cut all the animals out. based it on the film and original story and it would be cool to see gma willow potrayed how cinderellas mother was portryed in into the woods. i think that would be better than a face puppet.

Updated On: 10/12/08 at 12:42 AM

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Pocahontas was all right, but I have a hard time seeing it as a broadway show. If Disney adapt another film for stage, it should be Mulan, it would be much better, IMO.

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