People can have a problem with the drinking and discuss their upset with it and still see the show.
If you want to end the discussion by saying, "then don't see the show," that will lead us nowhere.
Clearly some people who are never going to have the chance to see the show are also upset and are going to be upset by the fact that Broadway theatre is going in this direction.
Well Foster is right. That's way too much annoyance/trouble to other people just for a beverage. Drink before the show or in the lobby.
just because this one show is choosing to let people drink is not a sign of the broadway apocalypse. ROA is not the gateway to a new, less respectful broadway. It is one show. There will always be Patti Lapone shows and Ibsen plays to put up. And i say don't go to ROA for the same reasons I personally had no interest in sitting through... say, something like "13." It is not my audience and I knew I would not be able to give myself over to THAT experience. There are plenty of shows for like minded theater folk who are not up for a "rock" experience. This particular production has made it clear they are aware of the problems at New World and are working to correct them, so bitching about what we all "think" the experience may be seems pointless to me.
Who the hell is Patti Lapone?
And how will she always be around? Is she a vampire that'll live forever?
Snarky. You're far too biased to wrap your head around the REAL problem here.
Foster - it's simply not worth it. Schillers, for shows like this junk, are stubborn as hell. They never consider the other side of the argument.
I surely have. I can deal with people bringing drinks to their seat BEFORE the show and DURING Intermission.
But out of respect for both the actors and audience members, the last thing I want is a drunken idiot walking down an entire aisle during a scene just to grab another rum and coke.
The bar should be CLOSED during the show. Based on your response and post, you are implying it won't be.
If that's the case, this must be the trashiest production team to ever grace the Great White Way.
Now you may continue your schilling Snarky...
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TheCharleston....When you go to Shakespeare in the Park do you not expect to have bugs there? When you go to Shrek or a Disney show, do you not expect to see children? What about musicals...do you not expect to see a bunch of little drama queens singing along and screaming at the entrance of every star as they enter? All of these things are a part of the experience of the shows. Are they annoying to some people...YES...are they a part of the show...YES....should they be abolished...NO!
How do you think the Great White Way started? It was a bunch of vaudeville clubs and theatres with...Oh My Gosh...DRINKING!!!! Do you now how theatre started? Do you? Festivals. Festivals with lots of wine.
Trashiest production on the Great White Way...bah. You know what's trash? Shows with no content or heart...shows that are so incredibly pretentious and boring that force people to believe they are seeing great art...shows that forget the original purpose of theatre...to entertain and to enlighten. That's trash. I'll take a show that lets the audience have fun and sing along over an O'Neil play any day. And you know what? I don't even really drink!!!
It's not about the DAMN SHOW.
It's about the fact that drunken fools will be able to get up, during the show, and go get more alcohol.
The bars should be closed during the show. End of story.
I was encouraged to buy drinks and take them to my seat at White Christmas- having a drink and getting drunk are two different things.
Maybe selling shots right before the show isn't a good idea.
It is also NOT about taking the drinks you get, before the show and during intermission, to your seats.
It's about the drinks being served during the show. That's my annoyance.
Now, Mr. Director or Snarky Schiller, if you'd like to address this then I would be happy to become open-minded about it!
I agree with Charelston.
"IT'S A ROCK SHOW!!! Drunken idiots and bad 80's song is the point. Just because it moved 2 blocks south and one block over doesn't mean the show should give up its core values or audience."
Forget the "drunken idiots." How the heck are they going to serve drinks without disturbing others and having people pass drinks?
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OH! I thought your annoyance was drinking at all. My apologies TheCharleston.
I still think it's okay to have seat service though. It's not a heavy plot that requires your upmost attention the entire time. It's more like a party than a show.
No. You're not understanding.
According to someone on THIS thread (who is connected to the production?), there will not be seat service.
But, according to Snarky, the bar will stay open for the show. I have no problem with people drinking and having fun... I've gotten over that.
My biggest concern is the drunken idiots standing up during the show, making a big deal out of exiting the aisle, going to go get ANOTHER gin & tonic they don't need, and then returning to their seat.
I don't care if I'm watching two elephants give eachother snout massages. If I'm paying $$ to ENJOY myself, I don't expect obnoxious drinkers to keep disrupting by getting up and walking around.
It's also a distraction for the cast.
The bar needs to be closed during the actual show. Simple as that, Mr. NY Director.
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OH! I thought your annoyance was drinking at all. My apologies TheCharleston.
I still think it's okay to have seat service though. It's not a heavy plot that requires your upmost attention the entire time. It's more like a party than a show.
If a "core value" of ROA is getting hammered then it shouldn't be on Broadway.
No. You're not understanding.
According to someone on THIS thread (who is connected to the production?), there will not be seat service.
But, according to Snarky, the bar will stay open for the show. I have no problem with people drinking and having fun... I've gotten over that.
My biggest concern is the drunken idiots standing up during the show, making a big deal out of exiting the aisle, going to go get ANOTHER gin & tonic they don't need, and then returning to their seat.
I don't care if I'm watching two elephants give eachother snout massages. If I'm paying $$ to ENJOY myself, I don't expect obnoxious drinkers to keep disrupting by getting up and walking around.
It's also a distraction for the cast.
The bar needs to be closed during the actual show. Simple as that, Mr. NY Director.
Lets put this as diplamatic as possible. Not everyone is going to like the same type of Broadway Play. And not everyone is going to want drink during the show. I saw this show three times at NWS. the first time I saw it, I got the glass with the 2 beers for $5. Which I had both beers at that same show. I'll never do that again. And it wasn't because I got drunk. I can hold my liquior. But it was because I had to use the ladiesroom even before it got the intermission. Any I don't like having to miss a part anything, whether it is a play or a movie.
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"If a "core value" of ROA is getting hammered then it shouldn't be on Broadway."
Honestly, I really can't believe the crap people write on message boards.
If you look to Broadway for your "core values" you are living a pathetic life and really need to get a grip.
I agree with just about everything nydirector2 has said, except I think there IS more to the story and the awesome 80s songs are simply badass!!
I don't drink, but I totally rocked at ROA off-Broadway, drunks and all. It was one of the best times I've had ever and the audience was a big part of it. It was a blast!! I trust the producers to maintain a balance but not change the basic premise of the show--it's theater, yeah, but it's a farkin' rock concert so enjoy it as such. I am convinced that no matter what they do, they can eliminate all drinking, the audience will still respond with interactive enthusiasm, sometimes over-the-top. The music and performances inspire that and that's a very good thing. YMMV
If you would actually READ, I was refering to a comment by abother poster.
"IT'S A ROCK SHOW!!! Drunken idiots and bad 80's song is the point. Just because it moved 2 blocks south and one block over doesn't mean the show should give up its core values or audience."
I will repeat for the 80th time...
this has NOTHING to do with the show or material or casting.
This has to do with the production team (or marketing team?) decision to keep the bar open during the show. This will only encourage rude "partiers" and ROA fans to get more hammered and cause a disturbance, in the process, by getting up and out of their seats during the show.
All fans of the show are failing to address this specific issue. I pray that Snarky is incorrect and it turns out to be false. Serve drinks before the show and during intermission. Not during the show. Please.
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The Charleston, I honestly hope you don't lose sleep over this HUGE concern. Perhaps the Brooks Atkinson can hire you as their spillage police. Oh, I forgot, you're a college professor at BoCo. How will you find the time? Oh, wait, you seem to have tons of time to comment on everything here. I hope your students aren't suffering. If I were a parent paying for my child's tuition there, I'd have HUGE concerns about your divided attention.
The Charleston, I think I understand what you are getting at. Now I wasn't at this certain Performance, but I remember hearing something about there was 40 a group of Women, in the first two rows, that were so loud and obnoxious, because they were so drunk, that not only did they upset the rest of the audience, but they up set the cast, because they were being drowned out by these women. perhaps maybe there should be a way to enforce a drink limit per person in there, especially if you are drinking spirits.
How do you limit 1000 people?
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