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#0Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:07am

I'm sorry.
You diss Mare and Krakowski - you are dead meat.

I like Christina, Denis, & Ernie. Don't F*$#& with them, missy.
Mistress Elaine, PLEEEEZE be gentle!


"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
Updated On: 1/21/05 at 08:07 AM

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#1re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:16am

Well, first of all it's Riedel (not reidel), and for once he actually wasn't drawing a conclusion about a show, except for his statement about Applegate's vocal volume. SO, this is an OK column, as opposed to his last one where he venomously attacked "Good Vibrations"!


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#2re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:18am

Terrifying.

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#3re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:26am

"SO, this is an OK column, as opposed to his last one where he venomously attacked "Good Vibrations"!"

Which was a FABULOUS column re: Reidel on CHARITY - though he wasn't saying anything that the entire world didn't say first.


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Updated On: 1/21/05 at 08:26 AM

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#4re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:28am

When I think of the great theatrical artists of all time, Elaine Joyce always tops my list. Merman. Martin. Rivera. Verdon. Peters. Joyce.

Seriously, I'm thinking of letting the cats have their way with my CD of Sugar.


"Gif me the cobra jool!"

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#5re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:30am

""SO, this is an OK column, as opposed to his last one where he venomously attacked "Good Vibrations"!"

Which was a FABULOUS column - though he wasn't saying anything that the entire world didn't say first."

His column was far from fabulous because you shouldn't be attacking a show still in previews, at least wait a couple weeks until it has opened.


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#6re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 8:34am

Reidel's column, as always ,is a pile of manure. But what can you expect from the Post, the national enquirer of NYC.

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#7re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 9:29am

could it be that he posts stuff all the time that he can not back up? He rips people apart because he hears it like a telephone game from sources. All I will say is.. he's just um UNSURE of himself.. i always loved (not literally) how he'd rip Idina Menzel apart in his writings and then when she came on theater talk, his tongue was half way up her Tucas for a tony nom. UGH Updated On: 1/21/05 at 09:29 AM

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#8re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 9:31am

wow


"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!" Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!

JeffG
#9re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 9:34am

"could it be that he posts stuff all the time that he can not back up? "

Say what you want about the man, but he's rarely wrong. Lack of tact perhaps. Purposely cruel, perhaps. But factually wrong doesn't seem to be his problem.

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Amneris
#10re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 9:35am

he always has stuff in his articles about ticket sales,advances , which cast said what about the director. He can not back it up. And to me , that is pitting cast and director against eachother right from the start.

FindingNamo
#11re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 10:02am

First off, I think it's terrific that the gay movement has come so far that it reads, "prompting one company member to wonder, 'She's married to the richest playwright in the world, and she can't afford a Crunch membership?'" The "gay company member" is simply understood.

When the Charity revival got rolling with Applegate I remember thinking, well, maybe old Doc Simon's health issues are behind him and he won't be mean, as he was to our beloved Miss Mary Tyler Moore. Guess not. And thus continues Chapter Four.


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#12re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 11:32am

OOOO...I can't wait for "The Odd Couple," now. Who knows what will happen with such powerhouse leads and a writer like Simon. I don't know...but I forsee Nathan Lane slapping Simon in the face, tossing his nose in the air, flipping his scarf over his shoulder, and storming out of the theatre.

Lord, Simon needs to get a life.


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Updated On: 1/21/05 at 11:32 AM

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Rathnait62
#13re: Reidel on CHARITY
Posted: 1/21/05 at 11:40am

Wow. Now this is what Broadway SHOULD be!! Thanks for putting the fun back into theater, Elaine and Neil!!


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Updated On: 1/21/05 at 11:40 AM

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#14i have a huge man crush on mikey
Posted: 1/21/05 at 11:51am

amneris, have you spoken to him personally about the issues you mention? you've asked him to his face (or through email, fax and or letter) to back up his quotes and he refused? can we see some evidence of said contact? or at least an acknowledgement that you've done so? if not then who is making claims they cannot back up? hmmmm?


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#15i have a huge man crush on mikey
Posted: 1/21/05 at 12:03pm

There is a great wallpaper of him on the Brooklyn Fans Forums, if any of you want to visit someday..

I really hate that man..


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#16:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 12:47pm

Someone needs to give Neil a reality check.

And it sure won't be his "Bad Seed" wife.


Ignorance is temporary. Stupidity last forever. Watch out BWW... HE'S BACK.

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#17:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 2:44pm

papa, i'm not looking for a fight and YES, i can back up my statement. Simply TELL Mr. Reidel to look at playbill.com's grosses or call up general management offices around town and get weekley statements. Printing in a newspaper statements about ticket sales and prices that are not true CAN whether you may think so or not harm a show. If people are eager enough to listen , they will go see something else and not waste their dime. Also the fact reading in his stories that "this castmember said this about the writers wife" "this castmember says the director stinks and was told to block himself on stage" that is not needed in the start of a show, middle of a show or ending of a show. To me that is starting trouble between company members and crew members because his articles seem to me (maybe i'm getting the wrong idea).. he will cause major problems with trust issues. And unless HE can be big enough to post NAMES of who said what..then he should not bother adding that into his stories at all. So there is my 2 cents. Like it or not, flame me or not. Like I said, I am not looking for a board fight. I do not agree with what Mr. Reidel has to say but look, he has the paper power, it's his job.

MusicalComedyMan
#18:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 3:01pm

Looks folks... he is a GOSSIP columnist. Thats what he does. EVERYONE knows who he is and what he does. If the Weissler's didn't invite him, he wouldn't have been there. I love his columns, I think hes terriffic and I wish there were more gossip columnists for theatre.

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#19:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 4:02pm

Musicalcomedyman raises one of the more interesting aspects of this. The Weissler's invited him there and handed him this little one-act melodrama; how is that kind of press good for a show?


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#20:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 4:11pm

Riedel's appearance does not necessarily mean he was invited. That's how he ended up on the floor last year. And even HE admitted he deserved it.


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#21:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 4:12pm

Yeah, the Weissler's either did this knowing he'd talk about it or they're really ignorant to introduce Simon's wife to a notorious gossip columnist.

Not sure how it helps the show, sure we're 'talking about it' but I don't think any of this will inspire people to buy a ticket.

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Posted: 1/21/05 at 4:57pm

You're right Matt; he wasn't necessarily invited. But if we take Riedel's version as roughly accurate (????), he was talking TO Fran W. when Mrs. Simon came over, and Fran introduced them. If La Simon is such a b***h, and there is so much tension in the air and Riedel is such a muck-raker, then why not take him firmly by the arm and steer him over to the donuts and coffee? I ask again--is this kind of press good for a show?


"They have never understood, and no reason that they should. But if anybody could . . . " --SS

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Posted: 1/21/05 at 5:11pm

well, amneris, carrafa's famous for not having a clue in the theatre and asking the cast, "so what do you think we should do?" not the first time that cat's been out of the bag. and you didn't respond, because i asked for specifics. great, you hate him and think that this whole thing was done without fran and barry having any idea that an article like this would be the result, huh? tell me, does it smell like daffodils or gladiolas when you poot?


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...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#24:)
Posted: 1/21/05 at 5:15pm

bta212-There is a little saying I find painfully true, "There is no such thing as BAD publicity."


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