Ring of Fire- Page 2

[Runner1B]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:52am

To my fellow posters: please excuse my typos. It IS almost 2 a.m., after all.

Peace, everyone.

--Peter

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:14am

I dunno, the smell of shill is still lurking somewhere off in the distance...

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:17am

Well, I DID just have shill for dinner.

[Runner1B]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:18am

I'm not a shill, sorry. If I have to say this every time I post, I will.

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:22am

You could just make it your sig...

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:27am

BSoBW3,

How was it?

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:30am

Salty and bitter.

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:32am

I was gonna say Overdone, but Salty and Bitter sounds absolutely delicious...

How i love still being up at 2:30 in the morning...

[pennylane2]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 7:53am

i don't know what show you too saw but this is definitely not a great show-- much of the cast was amazing but not enough to make this long show any better. don't waste your time or money i say, unless you love cash's music. even my friends who love his music don't want to see this. thats good you liked it though, but i did not.

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 8:22am

"Salty and bitter. "

BSoBW3, you make me remember why i love this board :)

and as for ring of fire, i dont wanna see it, dont plan to see it, and i hope maybe the a chorus line revival could take this theater soon!
thank you.

[Vespertine1228]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 10:37am

While I really could care less about all this shill bickering, I am a bit confused.

Didn't I read stuff about how Ring of Fire did well and was embraced out of town? And not from producer-related media, from other outlets. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm sure I read good stuff about it on Broadway.com or Playbill or somewhere.

Anyway, I was kind of looking forward to seeing this. Always up for something different and new, but since as of yet there's no student rush price in place, I probably won't be headed Ring of Fire's way.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 12:31pm

Runner1B,
Since you wish to have a serious discussion of this show, how about answering why the faults I mentioned are not faults, instead of focusing on the singular mistake? (Mistakes being somehow acceptable if you make them, but not acceptable for me.)

[marcmcmartin]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:01pm

Margo
Your lacerating thrash down of that poor soul was fierce. Completely diabolical. Just for the record, my friend and I thought Ring of Fire was like the Country Bear Jamboree-and I've seen that in other posts on ATC! Hysterical.

[muscle23ftl]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:20pm

People are just being mean on here. If he liked the show, let it be.

[DAME]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:42pm

SHILL = SCUM.

Anyone that posts a false positive review of something terrible that makes you go and part with your hard earned moey is scum. And we are not being mean to someone that simply liked the show. You can tell it is a shill. If not a more detailed ( I was really there) review would be posted. Those that make sense? Just one cup of coffee so far.

[tourboi]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:44pm

No one walked out? I was there at the first preview in Buffalo, too. Not only did I see people leaving at intermission (I think I counted 5 or 6), but I myself left halfway through act two, unable to bear any more.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:48pm

I have no issue with someone liking the show, the problem comes with insuation that "everyone will love it!" When there is a large amout of testimony to the fact that is not the case.

There are always people who dislike popular shows, or dislike critically acclaimed shows, and there are always people who love shows that most find a waste of time or worse.

To come on and claim "this show is for everyone" has a disengenuous quality.

[tourboi]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:49pm

It's official. I love Margo.

[DAME]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:50pm

Go to the back of the line. Margo is mine!

Updated On: 2/12/06 at 01:50 PM

[Runner1B]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 1:56pm

As I said before, I joined this board because I found most of the remarks made about this show to be nonconstructive and also upsetting to me, as a theatre fan. Why do do many posters delight in making bitchy remarks? It seems to be a competition, almost. Let's have some intelligent criticism of this show. To me, it seems very similar to Putting It Together, which happened to play in this very same theatre six years ago. I'm not a Cash fan, by any means, but the vibrancy of the cast, the energy level, the sincerity of the performers more than makes up for the show's faults. I am a person who is easily bored and distracted, but Ring of Fire held my attention for the entire two hours. The energy between Lari White and Jeb Brown was astounding. I couldn't take my eyes off of either of them. As I saids yesterday, I just loved this show. Penguin, let me reread your posting, so that I can respond effectively.

--Peter

[Runner1B]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:07pm

I don't recall saying that "everyone will love this show." I said simply that I loved it, nothing more. I never thought about walking out, either, which I have done many times in the past. In fact, the first show that I walked out on was that play with Cher, "Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean," which played at the Martin Beck back in '81-'82.I loved Jeb and Lari in "While I've got it on my mind," a song that I had never heard before. What I didn't like the most about the show was the brightness of the projections. They dominated the set in a bad way. They should be made dimmer, and the final one with the show's logo should be removed. I'm also not sure about the begiining of the second "act." At the 2/8 preview, audience members were taken by surprise, and the lights went down pretty quickly. Perhaps the lights should start to dim before the performers come out on stage.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:08pm

I agree there are some similarities to PUTTING IT TOGETHER I said so imediately upon leaving the theatre, I am working out a full review to write later.

My issue is that the show does not embrace that "revue" aspect (not review, that was a stupid mistake) it seems to ask the audience to invest in the characters, but does not provide them with characters to invest in.
The whole time I was wondering, are these couples the same people? Are they supposed to be seperate couples? Why are they telling me this story? Is this just a collection of songs, or is there a meaning?

None of those questions were answered or addressed, I decided to consider the show a review and as such it was mildly entertaining. I contend that the songs would be better served if the show had a book, something to make the audience care.
It was much more like a concert of Cash covers than a broadway show, and since I wanted to see a show I was disappointed. If I had paid full price for tickets I would have felt I wasted my money completely.



RUNNER- My comments about it "not being for everyone" were not to you, but the person who started this thread with this comment, "I just saw Ring of Fire and it was AMAZING. It's appealing to everyone and I want to go again. Everyone is so good in it and the set is so unique and cool. Oh my gosh... a must see."

Updated On: 2/12/06 at 02:08 PM

[bare_nakedlady]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:23pm

This is when I get upset with this board! I can no longer sit idly by while this kind of behavior goes on. I thought this board was created to share thoughts with other theatre enthusiats. If one can't share a thought without getting this kind of backlash than I'm embarrased to be a part of this board.

This happens everytime someone relatively new posts a review. Everyone goes overboard with insults and screaming SHILL SHILL!! What happened when you all first posted? I know everyone thought I was a shill and over 400 posts later what am I? Have I finally been accepted? Are my thoughts credible now?

I'm really very surprised at most replys in this post. People saying that if these newbies want to be taken seriously they have to post more. Well they've written several replies defending themselves and after a good six posts does that make their feelings about a show they saw more credible. Listen to yourselves its absurb! The thought that the number of posts one makes is proportionate to credibility is LUDICROUS!

As far as being a SHILL. We don't know if they are or not. But NO ONE is making you spend money to see anything you don't already want to go see. When was the last time anyone on this board went to see a show SOLELY BECAUSE of what someone here thought! I have a friend who thought "Everyone would love IN MY LIFE" after seeing it twice! That turned out not to be the case but they weren't a SHILL, just a person with an opinion. These people wanted to share something, their thoughts, with the people they thought would care. They came to this board to do so. This isn't a secret society! SO WHAT if they are a shill. A solicited opinion is still an opinion and they have a right to post.

All I'm saying is I get a little aggravated when we don't treat people like human beings. COTFP and Runner1B WELCOME TO THE BOARDS!! Shame on all of you for not doing the same!

The next time you see one of these post and are itching to same something rude. I beg you, Please refrain.

Updated On: 2/12/06 at 02:23 PM

[Runner1B]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:28pm

SmartPenguin78 wrote:
it seems to ask the audience to invest in the characters, but does not provide them with characters to invest in.
The whole time I was wondering, are these couples the same people? Are they supposed to be seperate couples? Why are they telling me this story? Is this just a collection of songs, or is there a meaning?

None of those questions were answered or addressed, I decided to consider the show a review and as such it was mildly entertaining. I contend that the songs would be better served if the show had a book, something to make the audience care.
It was much more like a concert of Cash covers than a broadway show, and since I wanted to see a show I was disappointed. If I had paid full price for tickets I would have felt I wasted my money completely.



What I got from the show was that the songs were supposed to speak for themselves, so yes, it is really concert of Cash's songs. The creators did not want to write a book to stitch the songs together. It was apparent to me from the beginning that the performers were not playing couples. They were playing different "characters" with each song. Perhaps this is the show's major fault.

Anyway, all I meant before to say was that I, personally, with 33 years of theatregoing under my belt, loved it. Of course it is not for everyone! I have loved mnay other shows that others have absolutely hated, such as Coleman's "I Love My Wife," Maltby and Shire's "Baby," Sondheim's "Merrily We Role Along," as examples. It is apparent that I could never work as a theatre critic, since some of these shows were panned. In fact, regarding I love My Wife and Baby, I kept my opinions to myself, since I was certain that I would be shouted down.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth for now. --Peter

[Princeton78]

Posted: 2/12/06 at 2:30pm

It's a bit SHILLY in here isn't it?
And it ain't the snow.