SHOWBOAT recordings

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:22am

Of all the hundreds of CD's I have, I still don't own a copy of SHOWBOAT. There are a few versions out there, so I was looking for some recommendations as to which one is best, and most listenable.

Also, wasn't the Hal Prince revival recorded, but only released for a short time? What's up with that?

Thanks in advance.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:24am

If you want to make a collection - the original?

Look how well the show did.

Other than that, sorry, dunno...

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:28am

There are a few older recordings I found that claim to be original. Are you saying this from experience, or are you just guessing? I want someone who KNOWS them. I'm waiting for Margo or Magruder to chime in...

[InfiniteTheaterFrenzy]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:35am

That's so funny munk, because I was just contemplating the EXACT same thing about Showboat AND Porgy and Bess this past week. There are so many recordings to choose from, and I am shocked that I don't have either in my collection. Theatermania's Guide to Musical Theater Recordings, which I have mostly agreed with in other cases, lists 14 separate recordings. Of those, the only that received 5 stars were the Music Theater of Lincoln Center Cast (1966) and the 1988 Studio Cast. They both sound great from the descriptions.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:38am

I always look at all the SHOWBOATs, then never buy anythign because I have NO idea.

[wicked4life51]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:42am

thats so werid ,cause i was just looking at today my show boat playbill from the revival (i dont remember how old i was)

[ChrisLovesShows]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 12:57am

Munkustrap178, this is a hard one as there are at least a couple of dozen recordings of SHOWBOAT in existence, if not in print. Conductor John McGlinn reconstructed the entire show, with dialogue, in 1988 on a three-CD recording and this is a great recording and a wonderful record of the original score. It's probably too much as an introduction, though, and I wouldn't buy it as your first recording of the show. I would instead recommend the "highlights" (songs only) version of the recording. This will give you a great recording of the beautiful Jerome Kern songs. The CD is on the Angel Records (EMI) label. Link below

edit: This (the three-CD version) is the 1988 recording that InfiniteTheaterFrenzy mentioned above.



John McGlinn Showboat at footlight.com

Updated On: 3/21/05 at 12:57 AM

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 1:06am

I'm not sure how much help I can be. For me I almost always chose revival recordings over original cast recordings simply because there is usually more material from the show recorded. I've heard all the showboat recordings and I prefer the 1993 Toronto revival CD. In this case the 1988 studio recording is a 3 CD set so it's the most complete, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that, but even so the one I enjoy listening to the most is the Toronto CD.

[ChrisLovesShows]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 1:11am

Yes, the revival with Lonette McKee, Elaine Stritch, and Rebecca Luker was recorded pre-Broadway in Tronoto. It is out-of-print, but used copies can be easily found online.

Showboat trivia: What song, almost always included in performances of SHOWBOAT, was not written by Jerome Kern?

Updated On: 3/21/05 at 01:11 AM

[Therese]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 1:21am

I have the 1988 3-disc John McGlinn version and love it. I'm not familiar with the other recordings, so I don't know what is/isn't included, and can't compare performances, but a lot of what I love about the 3-disc set is the inclusion of a lot of lesser-known material from the show. It probably is overwhelming if it's your first experience with the show, but IMO worth having.

Edit-P.S.: ChrisLovesShows - is the trivia answer "After the Ball," which Magnolia sings at her New Year's Eve performance?Can't tell you without looking who wrote it, but it was an authentic popular song of the early 1900s.

Updated On: 3/21/05 at 01:21 AM

[Matt_G]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 1:28am

I've had a question about SHOWBOAT recordings for a while, myself. I usually like to get original cast recordings when possible and I saw that there is a CD with the "original cast" of the show, however the names on it don't match up to who was actually in the show from what I can find, except for Helen Morgan. So, my question is when was this actually recorded?

(Did that make any sense at all?)

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 1:31am

I have a porgy question. why are there over 50 jazz/tribute CDs and no cast recordings except for super expensive double and triple CD sets? grrr... Updated On: 3/21/05 at 01:31 AM

[frontrowcentre2]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 4:27am

For a single original cast Cd the 1993 Toronto cast (this company moved to Broadway in 1994) is the best.

If you want the original 1927 text and orchestrations EMI's operatic recording (Complete on 3 CDs) is well worth having though you may find you don't listen to it a lot because of the length. (It runs 3 hours and 40 minutes!)

To recap SHOW BOAT on records....

There was no OCR made of SHOW BOAT in 1927. American labels weren't doing them then.

The first SHOW BOAT cast album was the 1928 London cast. It's really just the key songs but it does preserve Paul Robeson's "Ol Man River." These antique 78 RPM records have been re-released on a budget CD from Prism (PLATCD 733) along with the 1946 Broadway revival cast.

The 1932 Broadway revival got an early cast album on Brunswick that was available on Sony Special Products (A 55) It's not actually all original cast. Paul Robeson and Helen Morgan sing their songs (Ol Man River, Bill, Can't Help Lovin'Dat Man) but the three romantic duets were done by studio singers Frank Munn, Countess Albani and James Melton. This album has just these 6 songs, along with a 2-part orchestral medley. None of the arrangements used on the records match what was heard in the show. So this set is for historical interest only.

SONY reissued the 1946 Broadway cast album on CD a few years ago (SK 53330) and this selection is also paired with the 1928 London cast on Prism. Recorded on 78 RPMS, the sound is a little brittle and the limited playing time cuts the album down to 9 songs (including Nobody Else But Me which was added to the revival) and the new overture created for the revival.

RCA Victor has the 1966 Lincoln Center Revival cast with Barbara Cook heading the cast (RCA 09026 61182-2). It's not a very theatrical album and doesn't get a great deal more of the score than the 1946 set. If you like Cook you are better off getting the Columbia studio cast album she did in 1962 with John Raitt (SONY SMK 61877.)

Although it has been out of print for 15 years now, Stanyan's CD of the 1971 London revival (Stanyan STZ 107-2) is worth seeking for Cleo Laine's Julie. She "scats" a section of Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man, and sings a tender touching Nobody Else But Me. The Cd is a bit of a mess...songs in a strange order that clearly did not reflect the order they were done on stage. (EMI recorded this as a cast album of the revival and issued it in the U.K. as a singe Lp. They also recorded additional material that Stanyan added for the U.S. release.)

The Hal Prince revival opened in Toronto in October 1993 (I was at the premiere and it was a memorable evening!) The Toronto cast Cd was made by Livent and distributed by Quality Records Toronto (RSPD 257) and with a slightly different cover in the U.S. on Livent music (62588-80005-2). When Livent collapsed the rights to this recording went with them, which is why it is not currently for sale. Of all the single CD's cast albums, this one is the best. The shifting of the song Why Do I Love You put off some people. Originally a 2nd Act duet for the lovers, it was given here to Parthy to sing as a lullaby to her infant granddaughter, Kim. Later the song serves as the basis for grown up Kim's Charleston routine. Purists may balk, but I found the change added more depth to the show. And since the revival restored I Have the Room Above Her (from the 1936 film) as another 1st act duet for Ravanal and Magnolia, they really didn't need a 3rd number in the 2nd Act. The whole cast here is exceptional. If you want this CD and can't find it contact me at the e-mail below. Copies turn up used here fairly regularly as the disc got wider distribution in Canada.

That's pretty much it for the cast albums. There are many studio casts.

EMI/Angel did a 3-cd set of the entire score in 1988 including out-takes and supplemental material (EMI A23 49108-2). This features a cast of opera and Broadway singers and is packaged like an opera with a thick libretto containing detailed notes. The best thing about this album is the chance to hear the original orchestrations. I find some of the acting a bit stiff but the singing is glorious. A single CD of highlights presents the score as heard on opening night on Broadway in 1927.

Rhino has a CD of the score from M-G-M's overblown 1951 film. It's not really useful as a SHOW BOAT recording unless you are a fan of the film. The 1936 film is as close to the original cast as you'll ever get.

[hannahshule]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 4:36am

I have an orignal 1927 recording, but there are only nine songs and it shares a cd with two other recordings from the twenties... If you can find either the 1932 revival, the 1951 revival or the 1964 revival, these would be your best bets. There's nothing wrong with the 1994 recording, it's just that the score was redone a bit, so it's not the original score which I'm assumung you want. Also, look at the cast on the box, Barbara Cook and John Raitt version (1964) I believe is exceptional. I hope this helps!

[hannahshule]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 6:00am

Chrisloves shows- the answer to your question is AFTER THE BALL!!

[magruder]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 7:34am

Munk, I'd go with the 1988 McGlinn EMI/Angel 3 CD set. I do agree with FrontRow that there is some stiff acting from some of the opera singers (though Teresa Stratas is pretty wonderful, as always), but it's the best way to experience Show Boat on record. The rest of the recordings reduce the score to just the hit songs, and it makes the show sound like operetta, rather than the first great work of musical theatre it is. McGlinn's recording restores the startling opening lyric, restored the crucial "Mis'ry's Coming Around," (which was cut before Show Boat opened in 1927, but remained in the Overture), and also makes a substitution of "It's Getting Hotter in the North" for the character of Kim, giving her a major song rather than a hot-cha reprise of "Why Do I Love You?"

I first fell in love with Show Boat with the Raitt-Cook version, but the McGlinn recording is crucial to appreciate the show's true breadth and greatness.

[Jon]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 8:47am

Actually, besides, AFTER THE BALL, there's also GOODBYE MY LADY LOVE, sunbgf by Frank and Ellie in the same scene - New Year's Eve at the Trocadero. In fact, their dance break in the middle of that song uses yeat another standard from the period: AT A GEORGIA CAMP MEETING. It was Hammerstein's idea that the Trocadero floor show be mae up of standards from the period.

And as many know, Hammerstein did not write the lyrics for "Bill" . They were written by P.G. Wodehouse for an earlier Kern musical.

As far as recordings, there's also the 1936 movie version with Irene Dunne, Alan Jones, Helen Morgan, Paul Robeson and Hattie McDaniel. I especially enjoy Robeson and McDaniel's "I Still Suits Me" - a song I wish were in the stage version.

[melissa errico fan]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 4:26pm

The 1993 Toronto Revival Cast Recording is worth searching for. Actually, just surf over to Amazon. They have at least 10 new and used copies for sale.

[riv]

Posted: 3/21/05 at 4:37pm

The John McGlinn set is THE one to have. As a matter of fact, ANY John McGlinn recording is worth having. His quality consistancy is astounding.