#26
Posted: 6/15/05 at 12:35am
Sarah Brightman definitely had more expression than Emmy Rossum...She looked like a deer in headlights half of the movie.
SO glad there wasn't a Brightman/Crawford movie! — Page 2
#27
Posted: 6/15/05 at 12:39am
Again, Sarah Brightman looked like a deer in the headlights for the entire show (well, just the clips I saw. And if you're saying that's not enough I've seen entire clips of "Think of Me", "Little Lotte (The Mirror)", "Music of the Night", "All I Ask of You", "Masquerade", "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again", and "Point of No Return": I've seen A TON of the original production footage). During "Think of Me" she looked like she was stoned out of her mind.
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#28
Posted: 6/15/05 at 12:43am
This converation is completely pointless. Each person has their own opinions, so let's just leave it at that. I'm done with this thread.
#29
Posted: 6/15/05 at 12:45am
Bye!
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#30
Posted: 6/15/05 at 12:50am
i am a HUGE alw fan...its hurts saying this...
*emmy has a very light soprano voice- she made a sweet, innocent christine- but not a very 'practical' one - as someone said- her voice would never make it in a true 'opera'- plus i thought she was the one that was pulling 'deer caught in headlights' the whole movie...but as my friend said..'NO! SHE'S JUST ACTING 'CURIOUS'...mmm ok...
*gerard was hot. his voice was....average. They could have dubbed him. He still made a good phantom tho. the sex appeal was there- but he still managed to make himself look creepy and ugly :P
*minnie driver stole the show. "he LAHVES me, he LAVHES me'
*the movie was boring. Really, if you were just an average person- and didn't obsess over broadway, or broadway shows becoming movies (attn rent heads- im talkin to u...k/d :P) then it really is a boring movie. very slow moving. Although, i'm sure it motivated people to want to see the stage show.
i'll just say- right now- that THAT was my opinion. don't bite my head off for it. thanks guys :P
and can i just say one more thing...:P
i bought the double DVD of it so CLEARLY it was good enough for me to buy :P
*emmy has a very light soprano voice- she made a sweet, innocent christine- but not a very 'practical' one - as someone said- her voice would never make it in a true 'opera'- plus i thought she was the one that was pulling 'deer caught in headlights' the whole movie...but as my friend said..'NO! SHE'S JUST ACTING 'CURIOUS'...mmm ok...
*gerard was hot. his voice was....average. They could have dubbed him. He still made a good phantom tho. the sex appeal was there- but he still managed to make himself look creepy and ugly :P
*minnie driver stole the show. "he LAHVES me, he LAVHES me'
*the movie was boring. Really, if you were just an average person- and didn't obsess over broadway, or broadway shows becoming movies (attn rent heads- im talkin to u...k/d :P) then it really is a boring movie. very slow moving. Although, i'm sure it motivated people to want to see the stage show.
i'll just say- right now- that THAT was my opinion. don't bite my head off for it. thanks guys :P
and can i just say one more thing...:P
i bought the double DVD of it so CLEARLY it was good enough for me to buy :P
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#31
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:43am
"Really, if you were just an average person- and didn't obsess over broadway, or broadway shows becoming movies (attn rent heads- im talkin to u...k/d :P) then it really is a boring movie."
This may be true for some, but I brought some friends to see and some others to watch my DVD who don't any of the above but really loved the movie. One of my friends just said the whole movie was beautiful-the scenery, costumes, performances, music, voices, etc. I love when non-broadway friends enjoy broadway-related stuff.
This may be true for some, but I brought some friends to see and some others to watch my DVD who don't any of the above but really loved the movie. One of my friends just said the whole movie was beautiful-the scenery, costumes, performances, music, voices, etc. I love when non-broadway friends enjoy broadway-related stuff.
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#32
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:57am
<< but he was going to be the Phantom regardless. Joel Schumacher wanted him before he even knew what he sounded like.>>
Unfortunately, that is quite obvious in the film.
Unfortunately, that is quite obvious in the film.
#33
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:08am
Schumacher should've never ever be given an opportunity to direct a big production again. He ruined the Batman franchise, and now this.
#34
Posted: 6/15/05 at 8:46am
Having been lucky enough to have seen Brightman/Crawford in the leading roles of the show several times I can safely say you are WRONG.
They were magical together, quite electric and the "Final Lair" was beyond thrilling. The movie is a pretty, but hollow cousin to the stage version. However, I am glad they made it, because it's sparked renewed interest in the theatrical staging and brought ALW's music to a whole new audience.
They were magical together, quite electric and the "Final Lair" was beyond thrilling. The movie is a pretty, but hollow cousin to the stage version. However, I am glad they made it, because it's sparked renewed interest in the theatrical staging and brought ALW's music to a whole new audience.
#35
Posted: 6/15/05 at 9:19am
"If Emmy Rossum had 3 expressions during the movie than Sarah Brightman only had 1 during the original show."
Emmy's looks:
1) "OMG! That's is soah scary!"
2) "Mr. Phantom, sir, you're sooooo godlike and amazing!"
3) o rgasmic
Emmy's looks:
1) "OMG! That's is soah scary!"
2) "Mr. Phantom, sir, you're sooooo godlike and amazing!"
3) o rgasmic
Updated On: 6/15/05 at 09:19 AM
#36
Posted: 6/15/05 at 11:38am
Emmy Rosum's voice was really weak in the movie. Recordings make you sound 10 times better so I can just imagine how bad it would sound in person. I give her credit though because she was only 17 years old when they recorded it (or so I heard). Her acting was good but if she wasn't so beautiful she wouldn't have gotten the part. It's disgusting they need to start casting people in musical movies who are actually really talented singers. I wasn't a fan of having Minnie Driver's singing voice dubbed in the movie. If she couldn't sing it she shouldn't have gotten the role in my opinion. But then again they did need an actor that everyone knew for marketing purposes.
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#37
Posted: 6/15/05 at 11:49am
I am honestly not a huge fan of Emmy Rossum in this movie, which disappointed me because I think she is an excellent actress. She definitely had the "Christine look," but I honestly (please don't be mad at me) don't think that she has the vocal strength to pull off the role. It's extremely difficult, which is why, when they cast the Broadway roles, they cast people in their twenties/thirties...because it is so vocally challenging and people who are 17-18 just can't pull it off. I couldn't either, and I am majoring in vocal performance next year at NYU. However, I *did* like Gerard Butler and Patrick Wilson...at first I didn't think that I would like Butler at all, because his voice is very...raspy, but by the end of the movie, I realize why he was cast: he is the perfect counterpart for Wilson. And to the entire cast's credit, even though Rossum did not show very much expression (not saying Sarah did), the cast's energy was incredible. In short terms, I have mixed feelings about this cast.
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#38
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:05pm
"In terms of singing, am I the only one that thinks Sarah Brightman's voice is eh? On the cd I liked it during "Think of Me" and "The Phantom of the Opera" but during every other song it sounded like she took an advil, drank it down with redbull and it got stuck in the back of her throat. If others like it, so be it. But I loved Emmy's voice in the movie. True, it's not strong enough for the stage production, but hey- no one is asking her to star in it anytime soon. For the time being I'm happy listening to her voice on the movie soundtrack"
AMEN, wickedfan, AMEN! I TOTALLY AGREE! I think Brightman's voice is like WHOA too much uh voice! lol
AMEN, wickedfan, AMEN! I TOTALLY AGREE! I think Brightman's voice is like WHOA too much uh voice! lol
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#39
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:20pm
I dunno, I understand what people are saying that Emmy doesn't sound like a great opera singer...but personally I think I've started preferring her voice. I have the movie soundtrack which I love...I've also heard the original OLC song Phantom of the Opera and like that...but my friend gave me an ALW CD with Brightman's "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again" and it just sounds weird...I think I really prefer Emmy at this point, maybe just because I'm used to it, I don't know.
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#40
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:49pm
Yes I love Emmy's voice...very innocent and pretty!
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#41
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:51pm
It is very innocent. I'll give her that.
"you can take the girl out of Hicksville, but you can't take the Hicksville out of the girl." ~Rent
#42
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:52pm
yes you WILL give her that and you WILL NOT take it back!
LOL I don't know why I said that I'm just bored and I don't have dance today...
LOL I don't know why I said that I'm just bored and I don't have dance today...
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#43
Posted: 6/15/05 at 4:04pm
haha, you're very funny. I do think she's a good actress. But, not every role is for everyone. I think that if she had played the role for a little while longer, maybe spent more time with her, she would have been able to nail it.
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#44
Posted: 6/15/05 at 4:20pm
Yeah, Emmy's looks didn't hurt. If you saw her screen test, her voice wasn't that amazing.
#45
Posted: 6/15/05 at 4:23pm
True. Tis why Andrew Lloyd Webber did not let her sing "The Phantom of the Opera."
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#46
Posted: 6/15/05 at 5:08pm
"Christine was going to be an opera singer. A voice like Emmy's would never have reached the front row, nevermind the back of the house."
That is so true. I hate watching the scene "Think of Me" because..it's so obvious Carlotta is a better singer..
I think Emmy has a really crappy voice..have no idea how the hell she sang in carnegie hall when she was younger. gerard was ..okay.. but compared to Michael Crawford...its just..nobody can compare to michael crawford..
That is so true. I hate watching the scene "Think of Me" because..it's so obvious Carlotta is a better singer..
I think Emmy has a really crappy voice..have no idea how the hell she sang in carnegie hall when she was younger. gerard was ..okay.. but compared to Michael Crawford...its just..nobody can compare to michael crawford..
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#47
Posted: 6/15/05 at 7:23pm
I would have LOVED to have seen Michael Crawford and sarah brightman in the show. Emmy rossum is pretty but she never changed expression during the whole movie, her acting sucked, and no one in their right mind would be her as the star of an opera company!!
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#48
Posted: 6/15/05 at 7:31pm
Okay, as a classically trained singer... I must say Emmy Rossum made me want to jump off a cliff. A terrible actress, and a HORRENDOUS singer. She can sing whatever she wants, as long as she doesn't sing opera or anything in the like. Yeah, she's pretty, but atleast get someone who's pretty AND sings VERY WELL! That's all I ask.
I thought Gerry was great. At the end he did amazingly well, in PONR and at Down Once More he was amazingly hot and did very well with such raw emotion. For DOM he and Patrick Wilson were doing such an AMAZING job, then Emmy is just dawdling along 'I gave my mind blindly' in just a whisper. It's just so frustrating!
I also think Sarah Brightman and Michael Crawford were Fantastic. I love them both to death. I think if they would have done a movie today, with Sarah's more trained voice it would have been amazing. If you haven't heard her recently, her voice has grown a lot since the 1980's.
I wish they would have done the original cast, instead of with the pathetic excuse of a singer that they used for Christine.
I thought Gerry was great. At the end he did amazingly well, in PONR and at Down Once More he was amazingly hot and did very well with such raw emotion. For DOM he and Patrick Wilson were doing such an AMAZING job, then Emmy is just dawdling along 'I gave my mind blindly' in just a whisper. It's just so frustrating!
I also think Sarah Brightman and Michael Crawford were Fantastic. I love them both to death. I think if they would have done a movie today, with Sarah's more trained voice it would have been amazing. If you haven't heard her recently, her voice has grown a lot since the 1980's.
I wish they would have done the original cast, instead of with the pathetic excuse of a singer that they used for Christine.
#49
Posted: 6/15/05 at 7:42pm
You're the first singer who hasn't complained about Gerry Butler. Good! I am tired of hearing about his faults, when Emmy was just as flawed. But at least Gerry could act.
Updated On: 6/15/05 at 07:42 PM
#50
Posted: 6/15/05 at 7:43pm
True. Tis why Andrew Lloyd Webber did not let her sing "The Phantom of the Opera."
You mean, audition with this song?
You mean, audition with this song?
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