Steel Pier
#50re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 8:03am
Couldn't agree more with Margo -
I remember how excited I was taking my seat in the theater about to see a new Kander and Ebb musical and then . . .
I couldn't wait for it to end - found absolutely nothing about it remdeeming or likeable or even memorable. Although I have the CD, it may be time for another listen - based on some of the other posts maybe the music is better as a standalone!
#51re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 8:38amIt definitely is, FRC. That's why people who have only heard the score think it must be a great show and don't understand why it was such a floperoo.
#52re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 8:56amI found many things about it quite likeable - especially some of the performances (Debra Monk, Kristin C, Karen Z),,,but it was a lackluster book, unfortunately.
#53re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 2:34pmI'm with Margo on this one as well. I saw the show the night before it closed and found it to be rather painful. Am I the only one who wasn't impressed in the least by Susan Stroman's choreography? Especially Ziemba's Cassie meets Peggy Sawyer in blue number on the roof if memory serves me correctly. I though Ms. Ziemba did a phenomenal job with what she had to work with and I did find "Everybody's Girl" and the divine Ms. Monk's performance to be the highlight of the show for me.
fossemoves
Stand-by Joined: 4/19/05
#54re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 2:43pm
Love the insight Margo.
Like someone else mentioned, perhaps in 15 years a revival with a severe cut of the book will help.
#55re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 4:17pmI too was excited too see the new show and then i thought it was okay. The music was good though!
LoringsGuy
Broadway Star Joined: 9/28/04
#56re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 5:08pmAside from "Two Little Words" (I think that's what the song is called), was Kristin featured prominently in the story at all?
ShowtuneRick
Chorus Member Joined: 2/8/07
#57re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/19/07 at 11:53pmI really liked this show. I fell for it hook, line and sinker. I don't get why it wasn't more successful.
#58re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 12:07am
This is sooo weird. Steel Pier came onto my itunes the other day and now I can't stop listening to it. I really, truly love Steel Pier. The score, like many have stated, is absolutely beautiful and has breath-taking orchestration but the story really makes no sense and is ridiculous. However, it's still one of my favorite musicals.
Karen Ziemba is my hero in this show. And Lovebird will always and forever be one of my favorite shows. I think they should do a concert version of this show.
Updated On: 3/20/07 at 12:07 AM
#59re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 8:00am
Someone previously mentioned that EVERYBODY'S GIRL sounds like it would be a great drag number... Well let me tell you first hand that it is..
jbdc
Leading Actor Joined: 3/17/07
#60re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 10:05am
Hey LoringsGuy,
Chenoweth played Precious, a naive newlywed who comes to dance with her husband. The character actually has a huge arc in the show. She's perky and wide eyed to the point of irritating the other characters at the beginning and she discovers the dark side of success--*Spoiler* (HA! LIKE ANYBODY'S GONNA SEE A PRODUCTION ANY TIME SOON) Her husband fakes exhaustion and quits the marathon, and she is pissed that she has to find a new partner. It's implied that in order to get to sing in front of the newsreels, she has slept with Mick, the promoter of the marathon who is allegedy going to marry Rita (Karen Ziemba's character). Then Precious tells her husband to leave, he refuses. This is where Shelby (Debra Monk) sings somebody older--to Precious's husband, because he knows Precious is never coming home. Then Precious gets to sing at the staged "wedding" of Rita and Bill--all done for publicity. Rita finds out about the fling between Precious and Mick--realizes that Precious is exactly like she used to be. Mick is done with Rita and Precious will be his new star, he never meant to fulfill any promises. That is the last straw for Rita, and she leaves--thinking it will be with Bill. But, sadly, Bill is dead--he only got to come back because Rita aka Lindy's Lovebird still owed him a dance. And he happened to change her life in the process.
jbdc
Leading Actor Joined: 3/17/07
#61re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 10:19am
Also, Susan Stroman talked last night about Steel Pier, saying, as a choregrapher and one of the co-conceivers, the show was a great creative experience. And even though it only ran 6 months, she always felt it was a success just getting it produced in the tightly controlled, multi-million dollar production business that is Broadway.
I'm paraphrasing, of course. Also, it's the reason she got to do Contact, and that's the reason we have a Special Theatrical Event Tony. So Steel Pier has a legacy...sort of.
LoringsGuy
Broadway Star Joined: 9/28/04
#62re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 11:14am
JBDC, thanks for the synopsis. You'd never know from the cast recording that Cheno played such a prominent role.
JRybka, I saw a drag queen win a national pageant doing that number, replete with chorus boys in tuxes and giant feather-covered fans!
#63re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:58pm
You'd never know from the cast recording that Cheno played such a prominent role.
If you are just listening, you may well wonder why this screechy soprano is getting a showcase late in the game, but if you read the synopsis it is explained. Still, the number worked a lot better on stage with Kristen getting constantly upstaged. It doesn'r really come through as well on the recording.
For the record: STEEL PIER opened April 24, 1997 and ran until June 28. Hardly a "six month" run. Maybe she was rounding up?
I saw the Broadway staging and have since seen two community productions. It is quite popular with community groups and the show does seem to play well to an audience. The score,as noted, is very good and even if the book is problematic, it is far from being a disaster. It was a much better show than JEKYLL AND HYDE or THE LIFE, both of which ran longer. TITANIC did have the dramatic edge, but special effects aside, was poorly directed.
It was an odd season, none of the new musicals were perfect. STEEL PIER lead the way with 11 Tony nominations and won none. 21 years before CHICAGO went into the Tony awards with 11 nominations and wone none, but did manage a two-year run. Then it came back in the 1996/97 season and blew everything else out of the water.
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com
fossemoves
Stand-by Joined: 4/19/05
#64re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 2:06pm
Perhaps we'll see this one again - Revivals always do well when reconcieved.
I've been trying to get my producer friend to revive it regionally and still nothing. I really want to direct it. I think it's potential is great.
Phantour
Stand-by Joined: 6/5/03
#65re: Steel Pier
Posted: 3/20/07 at 3:18pmI saw this show done at the University at Buffalo (I guess we've been doing Broadway flops lately -- Steel Pier & Merrily We Roll Along). I was a student usher for a practicum so I saw every show. I really loved the music and although the book does need work, the moments that some people find cheesy or far fetched, I really enjoyed. I really love the moment at the end of Act I when Bill stops time, has Rita get back up again and everything goes backwards. We had an excellent lighting design for the show and a very energetic cast. I wish I could have seen the original cast on Broadway to compare the similarities and differences of the performers.
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