Stonewall

It's not theater but I have a strong feeling this will crossover with more than a few of the theater crowd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNXkJMXPBGc

It's a pretty good trailer.

Also give it 5 years it'll be a musical.

wow this looks fantastic!! and what great timing for this film too!

I am looking forward to this. I hope it is good. And I hope it starts the conversation going on our gay rights history. Our youngsters ( in general. Not being specific) seem to be very ignorant.

I have major issues with that trailer, but I'll wait and see if they actually make the clean-cut, cis white, Hollywood attractive young male the actual kick starter of the Stonewall riots or if they'll actually give credit to the people who actually did.

Well, I'm not sure we're able to say yet that the uniqueness of the story has been watered down. Perhaps the accuracy of the location shooting has been.

I'm just basing this on the trailer, but Lord, those streets for the night scenes look as accurate for the West Village as the ones in QUEER AS FOLK looked like Pittsburgh. (Which is to say not at all.) Just wish we could see real brownstone stoops, or the Village Cigar shop, or the Washington Square Arch showing up in a movie that demands to really look like New York.

Ok, done with my soapbox for today.

I doubt it's gonna be any good but "white and cis"? Isn't that just a kneejerk criticism? Like the people who said Looking was all white when it was half-Latino?

If these are the main characters below, I count two white guys, two black guys and two gender-neutrals.

Angelique from Penny Dreadful!

You're quite correct up to a point. I too am very familiar with the Hot List, having just finished shooting a feature for New Line this past spring/summer in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

It's true that the Stonewall exterior and it's surrounding square would have had to be recreated elsewhere in NYC just like they had to recreate it in Canada for this feature. I accept that up to a point. But there are countless other streets in the West and East Villages, never mind Brooklyn and the Bronx, that ARE available for filming. And they look a lot more like the streets of Manhattan than their generic counterparts in Toronto or Montreal, believe me.

Some films depend less on getting the external details right. But sheesh, with a movie about Stonewall, I wish just once a production company would care enough to get the look really correct. (Crying into the wind, I know...)

"Centering"? "SHOULD NOT BE MADE"? WTF!

The Stonewall was a Mafia-owned bar in a still-closeted New York, not a hangout for drag queens or trans women. According to the late trans activist Sylvia Rivera, who was out on the street and is said (by some) to have started the riot by throwing quarters at the cops:

"The Stonewall wasn't a bar for drag queens. Everybody keeps saying it was. If you were a drag queen, you could only get into the Stonewall if they knew you. And only a certain number of drag queens were allowed into the Stonewall at that time."

Sylvia was NOT one of the queens allowed into the Stonewall by the Mafia. So the people inside the Stonewall were mostly male and white (they were called "sweater boys"), not mostly transgender.

HOWEVER, the riots themselves really happened outside on the street, where the Mafia had no control. The streets were filled with "street queens" and "street kids" and hustlers but inside the bar, it was mostly sweater boys. On the second night, Sylvia's fellow trans activist (they called themselves "drag activists" back then--it was way before the use of "trans") Marsha P. Johnson dropped a heavy bag on a squad car, breaking the windshield. That started the second night of riots.

Also, the riots happened over the course of two nights. As the two days progressed and word spread, the crowd got more and more diverse. But the clientele of the bar was primarily sweater boys.

When I first heard about the Stonewall Riots, the two older gentlemen talking to me were still wearing sweaters.

One of them claimed to have been there that first night, and the other waited until the first went to the bathroom and whispered, "She was never at the Stonewall. She hated the Stonewall. She said the girls there were tacky."

"but I'll wait and see if they actually make the clean-cut, cis white, Hollywood attractive young male the actual kick starter of the Stonewall riots or if they'll actually give credit to the people who actually did."

The kickstarter has always been credited as a white butch lesbian, which is portrayed in the trailer.

I rarely see anyone suggest these days that drag queens and transgendered people weren't a part of the Stonewall riots.

I very frequently see people trying to suggest that white gay men weren't, in some sort of historically-inaccurate, post-modern backlash to "reclaim" it from the white male establishment. As if white male gay young, homeless hustlers in 1969 were somehow "the establishment".

Marsha, not Martha