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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Probably not....
'Tanz Der Vampire' has been an enormous hit everywhere except in the English speaking world, partly due to a poor translation, and partly due to Michael Crawford. Mr. Crawford, who headlined the show on Broadway, evidently wanted more humor injected into the piece, presumably to distance himself from the more mysterious, romantic role he had played in 'Phantom Of The Opera'. (if he didn't want to invite comparison to his earlier hit, why did he take a role in another horror story at all?). He played his 'Dance Of The Vampires' role with an outrageously awful Italian accent and interjected a lot of very bad one-liner jokes.
Under his influence, and with some very bad direction, the whole production ultimately became pure over the top camp, almost completely played for laughs. It was virtually the complete opposite of the truly frightening piece it had been in its original German incarnation.

The original German libretto was written by Michael Kunze, who is known not only for being the premier translator of most of the Andrew Lloyd Webber and Stephen Sondheim canon into German, but also as the librettist of the brilliant German language musicals 'Elisabeth' and 'Mozart!' (the former a biography of Queen Elisabeth of Austria, and the latter being a rock musical about the life of Mozart, both quite astonishingly brilliant).
Neither 'Elisabeth' or 'Mozart!' have been done in English, but have been big hits in Japan, among other places.
A theatre reporter had the privilege of meeting with Mr. Kunze a couple of days before the Broadway 'Dance Of The Vampires' was to open. He already knew what a fiasco it was going to be, and did everything except cry on everybody's shoulders. 'What have they done to my poor 'Tanz Der Vampire!?!' he screamed at one point. When asked if 'Elisabeth' might ever come to London or Broadway, he replied that after his experience with 'Dance Of The Vampires'?!, he would never allow 'Elisabeth' to be done here or anywhere unless he had artistic control. 'Vampire' is my godchild,' he said, 'but Elisabeth was my firstborn-my baby!'

One can only hope, as Kunze does, that one day a producer will come along with the intelligence and foresight to produce 'Elisabeth' properly without feeling it has to be 'camped up' or 'dumbed down' for American audiences. Meanwhile we just wait with anticipation.

Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Updated On: 2/28/10 at 05:06 AM

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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

I asked Kunze himself about this when I interviewed him before the Rebecca reading. The biggest bar is the name 'Dance of the Vampires' and the association it has with the American production. The best hope is that there will be renewed interest if the film ever gets sorted out, or if Rebecca does well here or in New York.

And much as I love Elisabeth (it was my gateway to original German language musicals), it will never sell in English.

That said, I've long thought that putting together a concert of translated songs from Kunze's shows would be a fantastic way of testing the waters. Care to invest, Mama?
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

I remember reading that 'Jim Steinman' who penned the lyrics for The Broadway production even got barred at the opening night it was that much a fiasco.

Did anyone see 'Dance of the Vampires' on Broadway?
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

It really is the worst show I have ever seen on Broadway. Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful. Not even bad in a good way. Yuk!
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

It sickens me. This is one of the best shows I have ever seen and am fully aware that it will never come to London and Michael Crawford I hate you so much for that (:

I do still have hope for Elisabeth however; I think the music would go down very well in Britain and if translated correctly the storyline too. I just wish there were a way of brainwashing everyone of the awful awful Broadway Tanz and translating it correctly for the UK as a fresh start; that would just be a dream come fully treu for me...*sigh*
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#7

Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Luke, cannot work out from your post if you have seen The Broadway production or not?

Mama, I take it from your post, you didn't like Dance with Vampires?
#8

Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Managed to uncover a full video bootleg; I hated every moment. I saw the show in Berlin in March 2008, I just find it ridiculous that the Broadway production manages to call itself Dance of the Vampires! Lol
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#9

Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Creators try to air brush their material to appeal to Americans, this backfired the same way as Chess did, from what I hear on here.
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

I saw Tanz der Vampire in Berlin and it immediately became one of my favorite shows. I found it stunning from start to finish. I can't imagine anyone thinking the finished Broadway production was suitable for opening. There was simply no reason whatsoever the tone of the piece should have changed so drastically. It was an unfunny mess with a hideous book, awful direction, and Crawford being one of the worst casting mistakes in Broadway history. It's no wonder Kunze is afraid to bring anything else to Broadway after that.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

Updated On: 3/2/10 at 12:45 PM

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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Exactly; he should bring Tanz and Elisabeth to LONDON!! I think English audiences would love both; especially Elisbaeth; although I fearfully see John Barrowman being cast as Der Tod...
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

I may got shot here but i thought Dance of the Vampires was very funny, it was a great night, as long as you forgot it had anything to do with the original lol
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Elisabeth would be fine for English audiences. It's really one of the most brilliant musicals written. It's about the human condition, and it touches audiences overwhelmingly...why wouldn't English speakers feel the same way? It just needs an intelligent producer, as Mama pointed out.
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

I may well be popping over to Stuttgart where Tanz is currently being rapturously received. I'm told it has never looked better!

I believe Joop van der Ende is starting to come around to a UK production and that Roman is also interested.

When you camp something up, it is always a sign of a lack of faith in the material. This is what happened on Broadway- they didn't have the guts to play it straight. Having said that, I agree with Dantes- some of it was hilarious. Just none of the Crawford bits. 'Death is such a Downer' (or something like that) was hilarious.

However the best bits originated in the first production: the opening dance, Carpe Noctem, the amazing graveyard, and the reflection-less mirror dance. My only reservation is I don't like the modern finale.

Given Stage Entertainment's increasing presence in London, I wouldn't rule out Tanz in London- maybe retaining the German title.

With that stunning set and wonderful Hugh Vanstone lighting, though, it needs to be the full show- no reductions accepted. And Philip Quast to star. He's a big man, but he could pull it off!

PS I love the idea of a Kunze revue!


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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

'Death is such a Downer' (or something like that) was hilarious.

You mean Death is Such an Odd Thing? Well, the lyrics were a pretty close translation to the original, but I preferred it as a solo for the Innkeeper's mistress. I thought making it a duet diminished the intensity of the song and made little sense, dramatically. As a solo, it packed a lot of punch and set up her character beautifully for the subsequent events.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Reading the subject line, I had to stop by to say - I HOPE NOT! At least if it's the "Dance of the Vampires" I saw on Broadway... WOW - if I had paid full price for that I would have really lost my mind.

The production seemed to enjoy that it was being absurd. Silly jokes that only theatre people would get... That incredible abomination of a finale. It was so awful. The sad part was that the scene "Braver than we are" scene was so awesome... Kept thinking "what could've been."
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Dantes! You really should sit in a real theatre sometimes and put that remote DOWN and then you may experience the 'real' thing'!!!!! x
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

lolol hey Vampirs i saw live thank you very much, that was a week i went to NY when i picked shows to watch that i knew nothing about rather than going to watch shows i only knew about, needless to say it was not the best week (apart from something i watched Off Broadway which was great)

DOTV Had a great energy, it wasnt a good show but it was not dull for a second. Some of the moments were beautiful in it and some (the finale, act 2 opener) were horrid yet funny as hell.

The theatre was really full the night we watched it and that was after the reviews came out and i didnt see any leave, at least from the mezzanine, i was shocked it closed so quick.
former sadm2 (wink)
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

'garlic, garlic, garlic, this song is getting longer and the smell is getting stronger' I nearly wet seat J 121 in the stalls that matinee!
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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

That video promo is from the Budapest production. If you get to see a production that uses a revolve, the prayer number is even more stunning. And the graveyard scene is incredible. My only minor criticism of the show is that I think the choreography needs to be beefed up a bit and I'd like some sort of set for the finale rather than just the empty stage. Regardless, I'd be thrilled to see the original staging again. It was absolutely thrilling and the score is divine. I listen to it often. I've even memorized some of the German lyrics. This show, Jekyll and Hyde and Carrie were the biggest lost opportunities on Broadway. Either Tanz or J&H could have been real competition for Phantom of the Opera, but both shows were tinkered to death.

I've listened to Elisabeth numerous times, but the score just fails to grab me. I'm hoping to see it and maybe I'll enjoy it more. Rebecca, on the other hand, sounds beautiful. I'm very curious to see what happens with that show. I hope they can find a good lyricist for the translation. The English language demo is just sort of meh.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

Updated On: 3/2/10 at 08:44 PM

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Tanz Der Vampire, Will The UK Ever See It?

Thanks for the info Mister Matt :)
I agree with you re the final scene, although it's more dancers I'd like to see rather than a set.

My main problem with Elisabeth was that it looked like a rip-off of the storyboard of Evita, I'm not sure its cheesy music would be much appreciated either on Broadway or on the West End. Der Tod has some really nice songs, though.

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