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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

Has anybody else read the very early (1968) draft script for Sondheim and James Goldman's Follies, from back when it was still titled 'The Girls Upstairs'? I recently came across the whole thing and was enraptured. I had no idea it was out there in the ether. It's clearly a first draft, but the story is complete with two acts fully written. Several of the songs were already written to completion at this stage, some with virtually no lyrical differences from the final version, but there are also quite a few placeholder titles and proposed ideas for songs that were presumably never written, along with some finished but cut songs that devotees are already aware of.

The general plot isn't radically dissimilar from the final one. Most notably, they had yet to think of the main 'gimmick' of the show, the ghosts! The characters' past selves don't appear at all. Act II also takes a fairly different direction because there's no 'Loveland' fantasy sequence. The writing is (understandably) much less focused, and some of the characters behave pretty differently, having not been fleshed out yet. There are some downright bizarre moments where it almost feels like it wants to be more of a farce than a drama. Still, it's cool to see how many little elements and scenes did survive all the way into the completed product. Some of the descriptions and dialogue are word-for-word in the final script! The original 1971 Follies is one of the most fascinating and legendary productions ever for me, so I would love to talk about the development of it, especially this early, alternate vision for the story.

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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

Robert McDonald said: "Has anybody else read the very early (1968) draft script for Sondheim and James Goldman's Follies, from back when it was still titled 'The Girls Upstairs'? I recently came across the whole thing and was enraptured. I had no idea it was out there in the ether. It's clearly a first draft, but the story is complete with two acts fully written. Several of the songs were already written to completion at this stage, some with virtually no lyrical differences from the final version, but there are also quite a few placeholder titles and proposed ideas for songs that were presumably never written, along with some finished but cut songs that devotees are already aware of.

The general plot isn't radically dissimilar from the final one.Most notably, they had yet to think of the main 'gimmick' of the show, the ghosts! The characters' past selves don't appear at all. Act II also takes a fairly different direction because there's no 'Loveland' fantasy sequence.The writing is (understandably) much less focused, and some of the characters behave pretty differently, having not been fleshed out yet. There are some downright bizarre moments where it almost feels like it wants to be more of a farce than a drama. Still, it's cool to see how many little elements and scenesdid survive all the way into the completed product. Some of the descriptions and dialogue are word-for-word in the final script! The original 1971 Follies is one of the most fascinating and legendary productions ever for me, so I would love to talk about the development of it, especially this early, alternate vision for the story.
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Wish you were more specific and, you know, provided a link for where "out there in the ether" it's located.

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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

joevitus said: "Wish you were more specific and, you know, provided a link for where "out there in the ether" it's located."

I wasn't sure if I would get in trouble for providing a link, but on second thought, this is an ancient WIP script which has never been staged or produced, so…

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4wbedwzgmsdjlyg2crwq9/Girls-Upstairs-script-Goldman-Sondheim-April-1968.pdf

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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

I have not read through this yet, but how dies the murder mystery plot work? I know the first draft was scrapped after Hal Prince said they should move away from the mystery aspect.

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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

jimmycurry01 said: "I have not read through this yet, but how dies the murder mystery plot work? I know the first draft was scrapped after Hal Prince said they should move away from the mystery aspect."

No real murder mystery in this version, so maybe this isn’t the earliest draft. Closest thing is that Sally finds a pistol after her breakdown and considers shooting each of the other three principals. She fires at Ben, but it doesn’t work for some reason not adequately explained in this script, or maybe I missed something.

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"The Girls Upstairs" Follies First Draft Script

Robert McDonald said: "jimmycurry01 said: "I have not read through this yet, but how dies the murder mystery plot work? I know the first draft was scrapped after Hal Prince said they should move away from the mystery aspect."

No real murder mystery in this version, so maybe this isn’t the earliest draft. Closest thing is that Sally finds a pistol after her breakdown and considers shooting each of the other three principals. She fires atBen, but it doesn’t work for some reason not adequately explained in this script, or maybe I missed something.
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I didn't think it was ever a murder mystery. Didn't Sondheim describe it (in Sondheim and Co.) as a "who'll do it?" rather than a "Whodunnit?" But with the emphasis on the potential for a murder, not necessarily an actual corpse.

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