The Last Broadway Flop
The Last Broadway Flop
#0The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 10:29pm
What was the last broadway flop?
I think it was PRYMATE with
22 previews | 5 performances
millie_dillmount
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#1re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 10:29pmMe too.
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
#2re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 10:33pmThey should make a new verision of the Book "Not Since Carrie" to "Not Since PRYMATE"
#3re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 10:34pmIt depends on what you consider a flop. Some people consider it short runs (ie Prymate, Oldest Confederate Widow...) and sometimes a flop can be considered a show which does not make back its investment.
And hang on, when did you win the discus?
#4re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 10:36pmWell.. today MOST show don't make back their investment..
#5re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 10:38pmI don't know if I would say most don't, but really the term flop is something a lot of people see differently.
And hang on, when did you win the discus?
millie_dillmount
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#6re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 11:08pm
A flop is a combo of the two...short run and very little investment back. If the show ran for 5 years, but for some reason didn't make back it's investment (let's say 90%), I wouldn't call it a flop. However, if it ran for two months and it made only 45% of it's investment, then yes, it's a flop.
What if a show ran for 2 months, but it made back 105% investment? I don't think that would be a flop...most likely it would've been a limited engagement then.
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
bronxboundexpress
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/15/04
#7re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/23/04 at 11:14pmWouldn't BOBBIE BOLAND be abetter titel for the new book since that didn't even make it to opening night and had a big star in it?
#8re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 1:45am
Another recent flop was "Six Dance Lessons In Six Weeks". It ran longer than PRYMATE but I actually saw it preview. What a mistake.
26 Previews
28 Performances
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
#9re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 2:21amI would think that if a show ran 19 Previews and ONE performance, like Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All, it must be considered a flop.
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
rockfenris2005
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#10re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 7:06am
I love FLOPS!! I live and breathe FLOPS!!
CARRIE is just awesome!!!
Wasn't there a musical called Vegetable Man that played 3 previews, and was so bad it didn't have an OPENING NIGHT???
Who can explain it, who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons, wise men never try
-South Pacific
#11re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 7:32amI also saw SixDance lessons... Front row to boot, and Mark Hamills' butt in my face for two hours.
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."
Conan O'Brien
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#12re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 7:53amOut here in LA it was done with Uta Hagen and David Hyde Pierce - and was VERY popular. I think people were just happy to see Uta in anything.
#13re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 8:05amI actually heard that DHP was quite good.
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."
Conan O'Brien
#14re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/24/04 at 9:11amHow much money did DOTV lose? I don't think anyone would hesitate to call that a flop. I thought it was horrendous.
rockfenris2005
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#15re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/25/04 at 1:56am
DOTV was horrendous
Tanz der Vampire wasn't
Who can explain it, who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons, wise men never try
-South Pacific
alterego
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/5/03
#16re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/25/04 at 2:56amIn terms of getting its investment back the latest flop is here already (gone by Christmas?)...Dracula.
popcultureboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/03
#17re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/25/04 at 12:39pmIf something runs for a fair while but doesn't make back all of its investment, ie Thoroughly Modern Millie, isn't it called a flop-hit?
Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.
Sant
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#18re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/25/04 at 3:29pm
The last flop(s): Never Gonna Dance (and Six..., and The Oldest Living...)
The latest flop: Dracula
Derek
Broadway Star Joined: 9/14/03
#19re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/25/04 at 3:45pm
Well, let me just say I LOVED Dance of the Vampires. The costumes, sets and special effects were great. In my opinion better than Wicked. I never saw Michael in Phantom, maybe thats why I liked him so much? I heard it wasnt a good part for him, but I enjoyed it just the same. I'd consider it one of the best shows Ive ever seen. Not saying u guys cant not like it lol, not at all. We all have opinions :)
As for a flop. Id just consider a flop a show that isnt liked my audiences/critics and that doesnt run for too long either. I wouldnt consider Thoroughly Modern Millie a flop since it won 6 awards and ran for 2 years. But I get what ur all saying too.
Updated On: 9/25/04 at 03:45 PM
Corine2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/14/03
#20re: The Last Broadway Flop
Posted: 9/25/04 at 3:48pm
I walked out of Six Dance Lessons and it was less painful then PRYMATE.
The Worst was Jackie Mason's Musical it made PRYMATE LOOK GOOD.
(you all know how I felt about Prymate)
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