The Strike: Fire them! — Page 2

their work does not put asses in the seats

no, but an ill-trained person could put Julia Murney's ass in the lap of an audience member if they didn't know how to operate that damned cherry picker.

if they're fired, who is going to replace them? The same person applying for work at McDonald's?

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Updated On: 11/13/07 at 02:57 PM

I'm There are plenty of qualified tech/crew people in NY that could use a job!

No, I wouldn't be pissed. Disappointed, maybe. Not pissed. I understand why Local One is on strike and I support their decision 110%.

"I have had tickets, in the past, to see friends in shows and have other things come up, making it impossible for me to see the show. Things beyond my control..... but I've never been pissed about it.

And if you can "bitch if you want too", please learn the proper use of to, too and two.

Bitch to someone who gives a sh!t. "


Ummmmmm.... I'm pretty sure the title of this thread was The Strike: fire them!!!! I think you're in the wrong thread
honey. Stop starting Sh*t for no reason!

Im glad it's sickening to you! I wasn't trying to please anyone... just sharing my opinion!

I get your point.... I just think it's BS!

And again, this is a unfair labor practice strike action which is protected by the National Labor Relations Act, or Wagner Act, which is a federal law that dates back to 1935 that protects the rights of most workers in the private sector to organize labor unions, to engage in collective bargaining, and to take part in strikes and other forms of concerted activity in support of their demands.

FAA workers who were involved in the Air Traffic Controllers strike of 1981 were fired and banned from federal service because they violated the Railway Labor Act which is a federal passed in 1926 and amended in 1936 to include airlines.

JohnnyBoy, I'm sorry for your friend that you only care enough about them to plan a trip and see them when they're in a show.

There are plenty of qualified non-union "tech/crew" people in New York. I can think of probably 30 people of the top of my head that currently are on strike with the shows that they work for. But that makes me wonder, when you said that the union should be fired, did you mean just union members or did you mean anyone working under a union contract?

The other local IATSE members who work with tours in other cities learn how to work the show in one day. Any show that has toured. Wicked, Mamma Mia, Drowsy, etc.

PLUS they have to do Load in and Load out.

Learning the full show isn't a huge problem.

On the other hand, I don't think other chapters of IATSE Cwill step into NYC and take the jobs, but I'm sure, like someone said, there are a ton of non-union stage hands who would probably love to work on Broadway.

Broadway Penguin,
I tour with Broadway Musicals for a living.. I'm part of a 23 person crew that TRAVELS FULL TIME WITH THE SHOW.. We are there to train a local crew of about 35 people to run the show. IATSE stagehands are skilled enough to know when i say I need a specific task completed they complete it, if they have a question they ask me. We rehearse many portions of the show along with a full dress rehearsal in every city BEFORE the audience even steps foot into the theatre.

You're telling me that's the same as asking a green crew to walk into a show and run it without having cue cards, other people there to direct and answer questions??

I don't know why I even bother..



"The other local IATSE members who work with tours in other cities learn how to work the show in one day. Any show that has toured. Wicked, Mamma Mia, Drowsy, etc.

PLUS they have to do Load in and Load out.

Learning the full show isn't a huge problem.

It's a little difficult when your broke and have saved and saved for this non-refundable trip. I'm not asking for your opinion or sympathy! Do I know all the details on the strike.... NO.... but do I really care .... NO!! I' know there are plenty of other things to do while I'm in the city .I just really wanted to be able to see some shows while I was in NY.

That's right monkeys, get up on that stage and dance I tell you! Why, I'd swear I hear the Master calling for you to come up and entertain him right now!

Go back rent the Movie, Roots, it will at least remind you of the good 'ol days you seem to be missing, Hoss!


The point being too, I wouldn't support a scab crew either way. This isn't about wages but crew limits and safety. Something everyone who works on or a near the stage should care about.

Jonny is just in it for himself. Plenty of people who are just fans who have no respect for those working on the shows for their skills and giving us so many flawless performances.

As to even having the gall to bring up the Air Traffic Controllers Strike.

Anyone who travels and is educated knows how bad air traffic has become. How dangerous it is because those in the towers also are overworked. It isn't even about money, it is about making the job so dangerous and unattractive that so few people are willing to train and be worked to death for any job.

It seems we still have a society of disgruntled slavers out there who still can't get over the fact, they lost the War and Slavery or forcing people to shorten their lives for the benefit and profits of others is just not suppose the be the American way.

Again, 9-11 anyone? Who shredded the documents in the Control Tower? Could have been the very Govt. that allowed the Bin Laden family to fly out of our Country on 9-12? Yes, it is so wonderful to have a corrupt Govt. in charge of our skyways. Have a nice trip.

It is very sad to keep hearing from people who care so little about the Entertainers and Technicians who make these shows possible. We are really fighting against becoming a completely plastic world where no one sees reality ever anymore.

Good luck everyone. I want the contracts to be fair. Hopefully we will see both sides bargaining in good faith very soon. I don't want anyone whose work I dearly appreciate, kept from doing work I know most of them love and I enjoy watching when I can.

jonnyboy,

i understand your complaints and see how you would reach the conclusion that we should all be fired. instead of wasting your opinion on an anonymous message board you should take your message out to the people who most need to hear it. c'mon out to the picket line and share your opinion. you might change some minds and shame us into going back to work.
i know that you wouldnt be afraid to do that because you have the strength of your convictions and the power of the knowledge that you are the voice of reason and should be heard by those that need to hear your message.
c'mon out and change our minds with your superior reasoning and intellect.
it will be fun!

YEAH fire them!! FIRE THE PRODUCERS!!!

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