Victoria Clark Sounds like Donald Duck Performing Opera... — Page 2

Wow... those people are vulgar! And they say we are immature! lol

Oh... my favorite guote from that page:

And to the Broadway World folks -- Get a ****ing life.

lol... someday.

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Yeah and now they don't care what he does. He makes posts "f*ck this f*ggot." and the mods just keep it. It's horrible.

I've lost so much respect for that board.

the title of this thread made my laugh out loud just now. the stupid things people say.

Alright - I'll agree that this Evan person is not the most eloquent fellow - but I do find it amusing that people on this board jump all over anyone who doesn't like Piazza.

I for one, saw it in Chicago and thought it was an unbelievable bore. Frankly, I think the score meanders too much, the story is plain silly, and the book could be much tighter. (though I will agree that Victoria Clark is absolutely astounding in the role of Margaret).

My point being - I get the feeling that many of you are jumping on Evan more for his dislike of this show than for the fact that he writes like, well, a troubled high-schooler.

I agree with you - however, I've seen plenty of well thought out reviews that were negative about Piazza and let's face it - MANY Piazza fans are brutal.

I once mentioned that I disliked the show and gave reasons (good ones) and I was called 'stupid'. It's frustrating.

I can understand if you have real reasons of why you didn't like Piazza. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the matter that this "Evan" did it is disrespectful and rude. I didn't appreciate having to read so many negative comments in a disorderly fashion from this one guy. I will admit... I am probably one of the Piazza fans that will jump on you if you dislike the show greatly, but I wouldn't go as far as to call someone [especially someone much more talented than me] something so distasteful.

~kangaroo

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Updated On: 8/24/05 at 05:34 PM

I agree with kangaroo, people are entitled to their own opinions. As long as people give their opinion in a respectful way, I have no problem with it. but when people say it in a rude way that doesnt give opinions other than "she sings like donald duck", thats when i have a problem. i was more offended by the review itself than their dislike of the show. people who give their opinions in a respectable way dont bother me, even if i disagree.

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I think all fans are fiercly proud of their shows, and there are those that are going to jump on you if you express a negative opinion, it's nothing out of the ordinary just like expressing an opinion is nothing out of the ordinary. A lot of us were upset by this review because, like PerforMeg said, the guy's criticism was not constructive! It was unsupported and just downright mean.

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Ok, I just read that guy's review from M.net

While some of his comments were over the top, I don't really find anything wrong with the review. The guy gave his opinion and stated his reasons for it. For instance, he said that he found Piazza to be trite. And he gave his reason for it; it was predictable and he knew everything that was going to happen. He also said that he didn't like the music and his reason was that he couldn't remember a single melody and that the music tended to wander (someone else in this thread said the same thing.)

Although I disagree with him about Victoria Clark, it is his opinion. If she sounds like Donald Duck to him, then he has every right to say so. How someone sounds to you isn't really something you can back up with evidence. You can only state what you got out of the performance and he didn't get anything out of her performance. So its not really fair to call his argument "unsupported" because those kinds of opinions aren't really things you support.

I really think you guys are being immature about this. Although it is normal to be passionate about the things you like, I think it is ridiculous to get so worked up about some guy's review, especially when it is not even from a professional reviewer and from a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FORUM. To bring some review from another forum to this one is truly silly. It's not like what he says is gonna have any effect on the actual show, or Victoria. You should all stop kidding yourselves; you weren't upset that the guy's review wasn't constructive and unsupported. You were upset that he was so harsh towards a show that you love. Sure, he wasn't nice about it. But he supported his opinions and he made valid points. So just RELAX and GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES.

Updated On: 8/24/05 at 08:33 PM

Wow, talk about disrespectful...

I never made it sound like Grubbs is such a good guy. I said that he wasn't the "Evan" that you're all complaining about.

Please don't put words in my mouth

Right, there are two Evans. Evan Grubbs almost always uses both names. Evan M is younger, and the huge Starlight Express fan who's been posting at mnet far longer (at least since it was hosted on mit.edu). He runs http://www.stex-studio.us .

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