What can we attribute to the lack of success ? (RENT MOVIE RELATED)- Page 5

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 5:18pm

I want to hear Snoop Dogg's version.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 5:20pm

katygrace, what do you mean? I love Wax Lion. I was warning him about the hostility Rent cast members have been facing recently, I don't want the same thing to happen.

*listens to Raúl singing "Not While I'm Around"*

[katygrace84]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 5:20pm

As to the title of this thread, my reply is silly at heart. The reply my grandmother would give if we said we didn't like lima beans or Postum or anything else she happened to come up with: "You people just don't know what's good."

ETA to respond to orange. I caught those references, dearest. You're so sure our waxy comrade is a cast member, eh? It's intriguing, I'll admit. But the lion is just the lion. Albeit, a seemingly omniscient one. Updated On: 12/15/05 at 05:20 PM

[roquat]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 9:48pm

Apparently it takes a thousand times repeating before it sinks into some people's heads (Marquise).

And I heart you too (Singingbackup).

[RentBoy86]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 12:24am

Okay, I didn't sift through the 5 pages that come before this, but I don't think you can blame timing or the content for the failure of this movie. Look at Brokeback Mountain, a drama about gay cowboys? Yet, its getting all this critical acclaim and all these awards. I don't think "gay people" are such a taboo anymore. Also, the whole debate about how AIDs isn't relevent anymore, there are soooo many movies where the subject matter isn't necessarily relevent on the surface (WWII movies, or movies like MUNICH about stuff that happened awhile ago), the point of a good director is to make things like this relevent. Make it so peopl care about it. The movie got a lot of exposure on national televsion, I just don't think they put the movie out the right time of year. Its not really a "feel good holiday family movie" - it might have worked better in like Febuary or something.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 12:29am

You think Brokeback Mountain isn't getting backlash? Maybe less backlash than acclaim, but there is no way that movie's going to be universally accepted.

[RentBoy86]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 1:13am

How would you measure acceptence? Through profit or through acclaim?

[eslgr8]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 3:41am

mlsheehan has stated very clearly what I also alluded to in another thread. Perhaps no other release design would have worked better than the mass make-or-break opening-weekend-is-all strategy that the studio used. Still, this approach made little sense for a film without stars based on a hit musical that the majority of filmgoers have never seen nor perhaps even heard of. Had the film opened small, in major cities, then at least it wouldn't be disappearing so quickly. It would almost certainly have had high per screen averages in its first weeks, and perhaps that would have created more of a buzz, keeping it in theaters longer and making it less of an overnight flop.

I read the criticisms of the film and though I can see the points that many people raise, I allowed myself to go with the film, to be swept up in its story, and loved every minute of it. Was I being uncritical? Perhaps so. Or maybe I was just seeing the film the way that the director and stars envisioned when they made it.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 9:08am

Rentboy, what I mean is that I figure "acclaim" to signify good reviews -- which it's getting because it's a great movie. But do we really think middle America is going to be much more okay with gay cowboys than they might have been with Rent? Certainly not. Great reviews don't mean that people aren't going to be offended and put off by the material, which is very unfortunate; the reviews aren't a universal viewpoint. I think I know what you were getting at with the statement about how the material is not such taboo anymore *because* it's getting all of the awards, etc, but I think that it's far-fetched to assume that that's how everbody feels as measured by the awards -- the that makes sense. I wish it did! Granted that the stellar reviews and all stem from the fact that it's apparently a very well-made movie, which many people don't feel Rent is.

Updated On: 12/16/05 at 09:08 AM

[shameless]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 10:48am

"I read the criticisms of the film and though I can see the points that many people raise, I allowed myself to go with the film, to be swept up in its story, and loved every minute of it. Was I being uncritical? Perhaps so. Or maybe I was just seeing the film the way that the director and stars envisioned when they made it."

eslgr8, I agree with that statement completely. That's exactly the way I viewed the movie, and why I loved it on such a purely emotional level.

[roquat]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 2:50pm

Yes, I believe I also "saw the film the director envisioned when he made it." That was the problem.

It was not a bad movie. There were a thousand and one reasons it wasn't successful, most of which have been aired (the wrong director being paramount). But it didn't cost enough to be a massive flop either. The people who saw it and loved it will treasure it, and the rest of the world will ignore it or forget about it soon enough.