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#1

What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:19am

I'm trying to figue out why the didn't keep The Civil War open as long as they're keeping Dracula open when they're both doing the same financially. I know they're both bashed horribly but which do you think is worse. (Even though I actually like them I want you to pretend for a minute that I don't) I won't hurt you! lol
#2

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:22am

I have not seen THE CIVIL WAR, but the concept album is GORGEOUS and needs to be owned by everyone. It made me cry more than any other musical album I have ever listened to. "Tell My Father" still ranks high in my choice of theatre songs.
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#3

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:23am

Dracula is much much worse. Visually it might have an advantage but the music is so forgettable and thin. Civil War had some incredibly beautiful music, it just had no business on a stage.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#4

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:26am

I agree, Matt - neither show belongs on stage. Dracula has cool effects, but the music is an abortion. The Civil War's music was breathtaking. I say Dracula's far worse.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#5

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:29am

"Brother, My Brother" and "Tell My Father" are absolutely gorgeous.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#6

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:30am

I think The Civil War is worse. I don't like The Civil War at all, and I'm becoming more and more fond of Dracula.
"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL
#7

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:32am

GASP, Chrys......are you talking about the music or the show itself?

and about "Tell My Father" (which I have mentioned a few times)..I got the recording for Christmas two years ago and on the way to my grandmother's house I popped it into my diskman and when "Tell My Father" came on, I was literally bawling. My mother turned around and asked me if I was ok. I mean, WOAH! I have never had that happen to me before. Amazing song
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#8

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:36am

It's such beautiful music.

Let me try to think about something good from dracula....

can't think of one but one really funny think is when they have the lion's growl sound effect and it's supposed to be coming from lucy. I peed a little.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#9

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:37am

I am surprised too Chrys! Surely Chuck Wagner's "Brother My Brother" or John Barrowman's "Tell My Father" had some affect on you!

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#10

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:37am

Sorry Spider! Just the music. I never saw the show, and that would probably make a difference. I wish I had a reason, but the music just never grabbed me.
Edit: Matt, I always skip that song on Chuck's cd! I even hate HIS version!
"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL

Updated On: 11/9/04 at 01:37 AM

#11

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:42am

Ok, thanks. Now I'll throw my opinion in. I think as far as music, CIVIL WAR is the best thing Frank ever wrote but correct that it doesn not work as a stage show. Dracula I think is Frank's worse music but best stage design. It all comes down to music for me. Civil War is the better one i think.
#13

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:55am

ok i LOVE dracula. yes the book is GOD AWFUL. the texan guy's stupid little jokes are pathetic. the lyrics are pretty bad sometimes. but cmon. the performers are incredible and it is the number one guilty pleasure. ive seen it 3 times (front row rush- TOTALLY worth it) and it just keeps getting better. you just gotta take it for what it is.

and im sorry, but how can music be an abortion? is that the right word.......
#15

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:00am

on a positive note, Pimpernel is awesome!

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#16

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:00am

SOMEONE answer my question. ISNT THE GROWLING SO FUNNY?

And the random vampires hanging on the sides during every scene change?

The music is an abortion because it's bad. There's one memorable song, that I actually do like and the rest of the score is forgettable, irritating, and the lyrics are god-awful.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#17

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:03am

any merit the music might have had, is completely destroyed by the blatant use of synthesized music.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#18

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:05am

I thought that as soon as the curtain went up. The random voices were lame then it sounded like I was at the new ABBA musical. Then when the "curtain" went up and that guy was singing lyrics i coudln't even begin to understand, i was immediately confused.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#19

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:07am

the La Jolla production was an even bigger mess than the Broadway one, but at least it had a full orchestra.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

#20

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:07am

o yeah god some of its awful. but not like GIGLI awful, an awfulness that you can appreciate. if that makes sense haha

but you just have to listen carefully. there are things like the harmony on the last note of "deep in the darkest night" and don stephenson's last note in his ONLY song (which is ridiculous- this guy is one of the most underrated bway actors out there) that can give you chills. and yeah there are songs that get on my nerves more than ANYTHING like "how do you choose", which is so awkwardly placed and performed its laughable, and "the heart is slow to learn" which says absolutely nothing. but idk. theres just something about tom hewitt. hes just so damn good. his voice is so rich. its just compelling to me. and too these people are the nicest actors i have met at the stage door. hell melissa errico talked method with my friends and i. theyre just really sweet, talented people. they deserve applause, the writers however deserve nothing.

Updated On: 11/9/04 at 02:07 AM

#21

re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula

Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:08am

it's a waste of talent. good for kelli getting out of there.

"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers

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