What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
bronxboundexpress
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/15/04
#0What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:19amI'm trying to figue out why the didn't keep The Civil War open as long as they're keeping Dracula open when they're both doing the same financially. I know they're both bashed horribly but which do you think is worse. (Even though I actually like them I want you to pretend for a minute that I don't) I won't hurt you! lol
#1re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:22amI have not seen THE CIVIL WAR, but the concept album is GORGEOUS and needs to be owned by everyone. It made me cry more than any other musical album I have ever listened to. "Tell My Father" still ranks high in my choice of theatre songs.
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#2re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:23amDracula is much much worse. Visually it might have an advantage but the music is so forgettable and thin. Civil War had some incredibly beautiful music, it just had no business on a stage.
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
#3re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:26amI agree, Matt - neither show belongs on stage. Dracula has cool effects, but the music is an abortion. The Civil War's music was breathtaking. I say Dracula's far worse.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#4re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:29am"Brother, My Brother" and "Tell My Father" are absolutely gorgeous.
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
Chrysanthemum62001
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/04
#5re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:30amI think The Civil War is worse. I don't like The Civil War at all, and I'm becoming more and more fond of Dracula.
"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL
#6re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:32am
GASP, Chrys......are you talking about the music or the show itself?
and about "Tell My Father" (which I have mentioned a few times)..I got the recording for Christmas two years ago and on the way to my grandmother's house I popped it into my diskman and when "Tell My Father" came on, I was literally bawling. My mother turned around and asked me if I was ok. I mean, WOAH! I have never had that happen to me before. Amazing song
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#7re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:36am
It's such beautiful music.
Let me try to think about something good from dracula....
can't think of one but one really funny think is when they have the lion's growl sound effect and it's supposed to be coming from lucy. I peed a little.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#8re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:37amI am surprised too Chrys! Surely Chuck Wagner's "Brother My Brother" or John Barrowman's "Tell My Father" had some affect on you!
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
Chrysanthemum62001
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/04
#9re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:37am
Sorry Spider! Just the music. I never saw the show, and that would probably make a difference. I wish I had a reason, but the music just never grabbed me.
Edit: Matt, I always skip that song on Chuck's cd! I even hate HIS version!
"What a mystery this world. One day you love them and the next day you want to kill them a thousand times over." The Masked Bandit in THE FALL
Updated On: 11/9/04 at 01:37 AM
bronxboundexpress
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/15/04
#10re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:42amOk, thanks. Now I'll throw my opinion in. I think as far as music, CIVIL WAR is the best thing Frank ever wrote but correct that it doesn not work as a stage show. Dracula I think is Frank's worse music but best stage design. It all comes down to music for me. Civil War is the better one i think.
#11re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:42am
No one else thinks the growling is hysterical?
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#12re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:55am
ok i LOVE dracula. yes the book is GOD AWFUL. the texan guy's stupid little jokes are pathetic. the lyrics are pretty bad sometimes. but cmon. the performers are incredible and it is the number one guilty pleasure. ive seen it 3 times (front row rush- TOTALLY worth it) and it just keeps getting better. you just gotta take it for what it is.
and im sorry, but how can music be an abortion? is that the right word.......
#13re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:59amwell they both have pretty poor scripts but civil war's music is alot better then dracula so i would say civil war is better.
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#14re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:00amon a positive note, Pimpernel is awesome!
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
#15re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:00am
SOMEONE answer my question. ISNT THE GROWLING SO FUNNY?
And the random vampires hanging on the sides during every scene change?
The music is an abortion because it's bad. There's one memorable song, that I actually do like and the rest of the score is forgettable, irritating, and the lyrics are god-awful.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#16re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:03amany merit the music might have had, is completely destroyed by the blatant use of synthesized music.
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
#17re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:05amI thought that as soon as the curtain went up. The random voices were lame then it sounded like I was at the new ABBA musical. Then when the "curtain" went up and that guy was singing lyrics i coudln't even begin to understand, i was immediately confused.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#18re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:07amthe La Jolla production was an even bigger mess than the Broadway one, but at least it had a full orchestra.
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#19re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:07am
o yeah god some of its awful. but not like GIGLI awful, an awfulness that you can appreciate. if that makes sense haha
but you just have to listen carefully. there are things like the harmony on the last note of "deep in the darkest night" and don stephenson's last note in his ONLY song (which is ridiculous- this guy is one of the most underrated bway actors out there) that can give you chills. and yeah there are songs that get on my nerves more than ANYTHING like "how do you choose", which is so awkwardly placed and performed its laughable, and "the heart is slow to learn" which says absolutely nothing. but idk. theres just something about tom hewitt. hes just so damn good. his voice is so rich. its just compelling to me. and too these people are the nicest actors i have met at the stage door. hell melissa errico talked method with my friends and i. theyre just really sweet, talented people. they deserve applause, the writers however deserve nothing.
Updated On: 11/9/04 at 02:07 AM
Broadway Matt
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/17/03
#20re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 2:08amit's a waste of talent. good for kelli getting out of there.
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
Amy Archer
Leading Actor Joined: 7/2/03
#21re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 6:53amGee, Munkustrap, you are quite opinionated for a concessionaire. Perhaps you can tell Don Black what you think of his lyrics for Dracula the next time you see him at Bombay Dreams.
#22re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 9:41am
"The music is an abortion because it's bad."
That sentence makes no sense.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#23re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 12:51pmhaha thank you! it makes no sense. i think theyre confused.
#24re: What show do you guys think is better or worse? The Civil War or Dracula
Posted: 11/9/04 at 1:24pm
Ok, munkustrap. I'm going to put you out of your misery.
I think Alison was referring to the fact that you mean an "abhorition" (wow that word looks weird. If I've spelt it wrong, someone correct me cos Microsoft's spellcheck has never heard of it).
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