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#1

musical theatre or vocal performance?

which do you think is better? i understand it depends on the person, but i can't decide. I am classicaly trained singer but i love musical theatre and have done both professional and community theatre throughout the past 6 years. I've also done a little bit of opera and take part in many classical competitions but i can't decide which to do in college. In the long run does it really matter? and if i go into vocal performance and ultimatly go on sing opera, how hard is it to cross over to the musical theatre world? because musical theatre is my true passion and i feel most in my element there,


advice is greatly apprectiated:)
#2

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neither. get a business degree.
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#4

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i totally understand your sarcasm and know thats the "logical" thing to do but i honestly don't fee like i am good at anything and music is where my heart is so i want to pursue it.
I really would like some input as to what major would benefit me as a performer.

thanks
#5

re: musical theatre or vocal performance?

There's a program at NYU at the Steinhardt School that is a Vocal Performance program that has two majors: Musical Theatre and Classiscal. This is probably the type of program you'd want to go into, because that way you can train as a singer and an actor. Also, a lot of musical theatre programs now pretty much focus on dance and not acting/singing. They do incredible shows there and the department's reputation is becoming very well regarded in the NYC Theatre community.
#6

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if you want a career, unless you're going to a big five musical theatre or opera school...the best thing to do is to get a business degree (it will aid in the business of show). or, don't get a degree, study privately with people, and work your way up now instead of waiting for four years.

P.S. The NYU program mentioned above IS very well-respected.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown

Updated On: 10/4/05 at 03:27 PM

#8

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do you know how much my academic standing will effect me getting in? I'm just an average student with a and b's (the occasional c in math) I'm very worried that my grades arnt up to NYU "status" though. also, im assuming they DO consider you sat scores?
#10

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yes, Forester, you are correct. Quite correct.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown
#11

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Yea, the audition matters A LOT... so if they really like you, they might look over the fact that your grades might not be perfect.

I'd just have to say, going to a musical theatre or vocal performance school and getting a a degree does absolutely nothing to help you in the performing world, since it's your abilities that help... not your degree. Just thought I would point that out.

Since as people said, that degree won't get you a job, others will. So I'd suggest looking into trying to find something else you can fall back on and to become more well rounded, as well as get training in singing (acting, dancing too) for musical theatre and performing. Since a degree in say, business, will be helpful with other things and then if you can get training in to improve your skills, THAT training is what helps you.

So really, going to these schools.. .you are hardly paying for the degree to help, but the training. Unless you want to become a teacher or something, then the degree helps in a few different areas. But as a performer, it's your talent and ability that you need, not the degree.

So GL... just thought I'd share that. And btw there is a thread about this kind of thing on the student board. well about where to go to school, what to major in etc. Some contrasting opinions... but you might find it helpful.
#12

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Okay, I go to school at Boston Conservatory where they have Musical Theater annnnnnd vocal performance. I am in the vocal performance field and I have to say it is worth doing. Classical training is what you NEED for a good broadway belt or legit voice. Its all about the classical training! You can then go to grad school or another program to get the acting/dance down and work on your belt there. Hope that helped!
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#13

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Go after both. Major in one and take as many courses as you can in the other.

How many of us have watched musical theatre singers with lousy technique? Then there are the opera singers who sound beautiful but cannot act. (Much less walk and chew gum at the same time.)

I'm a firm believer in classical technique (as in opera) for all singers--even rock and roll singers--as well as ballet for all kinds of dancers. In both cases, opera and ballet teach discipline and body awareness as well as limitations.

Do it all. But you also can go to a college and take private lessons too. A good reason to go to school is to figure out what other people can and cannot do. Learn from observing. If you train alone, you haven't a clue what others may be (or may not be) doing.


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#14

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I went vocal (with a back-up in music education so I at least have SOME job potential) but kind of regret it and wish I went the musical theater route.
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#15

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I am majoring in Arts Administration. I get many theatre classes but I also get business, accounting, management, marketing and economics classes. This prepares me both for a career in the theatre but also many other fields.
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#16

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I agree with starsinger. I'm planning on getting a Bachelor's in Vocal Performance (while taking as many acting and dance classes as possible) and then a Master's in Musical Theatre.

And it's a very common misconception that if you get a voice degree, then you aren't going to be a very good actor. We've seen musical theatre majors who cannot act to save their lives, and a vocal performance major win 4 Tony Awards. And vice versa. Really, it all depends on how hard you're willing to work to be great.

I believe that that specific training in one area will set you apart from all of the other girls who can belt their face off, but don't have a bit of musicianship and technicality.

Then when I get tired of the business I can teach voice in a private studio, and maybe get my doctorate. I think that my degrees will help me get students, rather than if I had just been in a Bachelor's Musical Theatre program and then gone off to work.

All that having been said, do what feels right to YOU. We can all tell you what is best for a career, but if you are not having fun doing it then it's pointless, isn't it?

Updated On: 10/4/05 at 05:44 PM

#17

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I was in the same dilemma 5 years ago... Holy HELL I am old! :-P Anyway, I am a singer first and had taken voice lessons for years, participated in choir and musicals in high school. When it came time to audition for schools I kept hearing about how musical theater majors (at many schools, including UCLA where I ended up going) were not given ANY voice lessons their first year of school. I thought that was ridiculous because I wanted to focus on my voice, so I became a music (vocal performance) major. Now, can I sing better than most of the musical theater majors? Yes. But, I missed out on all that dance and acting training (although I did take as many acting classes as you could if you were not a major) and now those kids can dance like crazy, and I... can't. That said... With wichever path you choose, it is possible to get outside training for the areas that aren't being focused on enough in your classes. I wish I had taken some outside dance classes, but I just have to do that now instead. I do wonder what I would be like if I had had all those dance classes with the musical theater kids, which would have been wonderful... But, their voice teachers were sometimes not even voice teacher, but accompanists being made to teach and coach vocalists. I could go back and forth all day. Just do your research! Find the school that will give you the most opportunities to work with the most qualified people.
#18

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"because musical theatre is my true passion and i feel most in my element there"

I think your own words answer your own question.
#19

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I've wondered the exact same thing...so here is what I'm doing....I major in "Musical Theatre"....but I minor in "Vocal Performance". You might try to do that or you can do it the other way around.
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#20

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As someone who has gone through this, I would advise taking the Musical Theatre major. A Vocal Performance degree will help make you an outstanding musician (score analysis, music history, theory), but voice lessons are voice lessons. what you do in your studio, regardless of career focus, is between you and your teacher. nothing says that you can't be developing a strong technique while studying both operatic and MT literature. AND... if a musical theatre career is your goal, a vocal performance degree will not assist you in the dance/acting department.

If your voice truly leans towards the operatic, with more study, you could guide your career that way. True operatic careers start much later than age 22 - your voice just isn't done yet. Get the Musical Theatre degree - it will better prepare you for either career. If you end up going to opera, then go to get your Masters in Voice and start hitting the Apprenticeship circuit. If I had it to do over again, this is what I would've done.
Good luck!
#21

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thank you all so much for you input, i really appreciate it. I've actually started looking into the Steinhardt School at NYU. It seems perfect for me because i can get a lot of vocal training while still having musical theatre too. Plus its in new york, which i LOVE. i thank everyone again for all their messages, it really helps to get a lot of opinions:)

has anyone ever been too, or know anything else about the program at NYU? thanks a bunch<3

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