pop-stars,,,ick!!!
#0pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:25pm
ok, honestly, i have a problem with pop-stars on broadway. i dont like them. i will never like them....it seems like they are posers in a way. im sorry i dont mean to offend anyone or make a stereotype but geeh.
on my list of "broadway" actors i cant stand:
drew lachey
melanie brown
joey fatone
the only one who wasnt horrible was michelle williams....and i really didnt think she was exceptional.
#1re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:32pmI have a problem with them too and I refuse to see any shows with a pop star in it. But I understand the need to bring these "stars" into shows by producers. Producers will do anything to make money and sell tickets so if these pop-stars have one bit of talent, they're going to get casted.
#2re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:33pmi havent seen any with popstars, but are there any we can look back and say they did a great job? (thats not sarcasm.. i'm actually asking :P)
#3re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:35pm
i totaly agree with that. ive said this before, but i find it so completely offensive to Broadway itself that there are people with the mindset that 'oh well if i cant make money with the popular crowd i can always resort to Broadway..'
I also wonder what the hell is going on in casting directors minds when they think that casting a burnt out pop star will attract people to the show. ummmmmm no. It wouldnt bother me so much if they could actually sing and act though. too bad a lot of them cant. There are tons of struggling actors/singers out there who dream of working on broadway and these pop stars are stealing those oppertunities just because they can say they were a spice girl etc.
:steps off of soap box:
Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:35 PM
#4re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:36pmi find a show more appealing when they have new talent rather than when they just cast someone with status. normally the newbies have 10 times the talent of any pop-star. geeh it just makes me angry to see them show commercials for broadway shows on like MTV. thats the beauty of broadway. it doesnt appeal to just anyone so why try to make it into smthing its not? i mean i understand its all about money but fans will be fans no matter what.
#5re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:38pmnodaybuttoday2- you are so right in saying they steal opportunities. i mean honestly its just not fair how a person could be cast status over talent.
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#6re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:38pm
Well, there's you and there's Joe (or more likey Jane) Q. Public. Most people who buy Broadway tickets aren't big-time theater afficianados; they're people looking for a good time. And if they can say they saw some washed-up pop star at the same time, all the better.
It's sad, but today you can be a "star" for nothing in particular. There's too much media and demand for "star" gossip and news, and not enough real stars to fill it. So we get people who are pretty much famous for being famous. How long do you think it'll take Paris Hilton to get to Broadway?
Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:38 PM
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Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:39pm
okay this is a ridiculous topic. does that mean that you guys feel that if a singer wanted to make a cross-over into acting you wouldn't accept it because..GOD FORBID THEY'RE SINGERS..THEY CAN'T ACT. Or better yet what if people went around saying KRISTEN CHENOWETH had no business starring in a pilot for her own TV show because, dammit she's a theatre actress, and theatre people don't belong on TV.
What it comes down to is this: They are all in show business and they have every right to explore any facet of the entertainment field they choose to, it's called diversity, it's not for you to say who should or should not do theatre.
It's your perogative if you don't go see them in whatever show they happen to be in, but just because they are "pop stars" does not mean they couldn't more than be up to the challenge of doing theatre. You guys are stereotyping and it's unfair. See the performances FIRST before you go bashing performers just because YOU don't feel they shouldn't be doing theatre.
Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:39 PM
#9re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:40pmonce someone can spell K-R-I-S-T-I-N ill take them seriously...and its different...she actually has talent unlike these burnt out "pop sensations" geeeh. Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:40 PM
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Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#10re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:41pmThat ain't the issue, Marquise. The issue is the casting of marginally talented people because they have a "name." From a theatrical perspective, it stinks. And to tell the truth, it often does nothing from a BO perspective, either. How long did Little Shop last after Hunter Foster left again?
#11re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:42pmplum- your exactly right....a pop star cant hold a show for longer than a couple weeks
#12re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:43pmi wouldnt mind if they actually COULD sing/dance/act. however, in my opinion, these pop stars are not fit for broadway. but if they have the talent, they can perform in whatever way shape or form they feel like and i wont have anything to complain about Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:43 PM
#13re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:43pm
xluckystar2107x---
AND WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT MAKES SOME SENSE ILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY
Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:43 PM
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Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#14re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:44pmUh, you want to address that to someone specific, Marquise?
#15re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:46pmok honestly the only reason that i will insist you are wrong is because in every case a pop star had been in a show theyve failed at it miserably and got horrible reviews....its just not their thing and they have no business in theatre. In fact. kristin did do her own pilot and show and THAT failed so obviously crossovers dont work in general. just as kristin is a theatre actor joey fatone or joey mcintyre or mel b is a pop star and that is why it just doesnt work people A. dont accept them and B. they generally have no idea what they are doing. Updated On: 9/13/04 at 05:46 PM
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Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:47pm
i cant wait till it works out for someone who deserves it and works hard... not saying none of them have worked hard in the past... but it would be cool to see anyway
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Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#18re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:48pm
"See the performances FIRST before you go bashing performers just because YOU don't feel they shouldn't be doing theatre."
first of all i DO feel they shouldnt be doing theatre
second of all, i HAVE seen them, I might sound a little crazy at the moment but i really dont bash anyone i havent heard/seen for myself...
#19re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:50pmi was gonna mention deborah cuz she seemed to be liked in the show... sad it closed, but im sure its not her fault... i would have seen her in it (haven't seen the show yet anyway)
#20re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:50pmpoint in case being, no pop-star who has dared has succeeded and its just not fair for a pop-star with no theatre experience (but a name) to get cast over a very talented actor who has devoted their life to succeeding on broadway. i will state it again... ITS NOT FAIR TO CAST POPULARITY OVER TALENT. although thats how it is anywhere...
#21re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:52pmi dont know if id label deborah cox a pop star but she had a very short run anyway.
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#22re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:53pmjoey mac was awesome in wicked. guys, i mean come on!a lot of pop star have been trained in theatre! look at joey, like it or not, he is a BROADWAY ACTOR. and look at hugh jackman, same thing! hollywood star, everyone raves about him. why does everyone automatically believe that anyone who is a popstar can't be on broadway! what if their awesome performers!
#23re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:53pm
This reminds me of 1994 when Chita Rivera was leaving "KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN" and they announced that VANESSA WILLIAMS was going to take over the role.
There were so many naysayers because she was a de-throned Miss America that in some people's opinions only had a marginally succesful recording/movie career up to that point. She had no business doing Broadway or for that matter attempt to fill Chita Rivera's shoes.
You know what the outcome was:
SHE MADE EVERYONE EAT THEIR WORDS. Because she was more than up to the challenge, and she blew most of the critics away with her dancing, singing and acting. And the show continued running long after Chita left. And no, that is not a diss to Chita, I'm not saying Vanessa was better than Chita. But that was a big challenge for her to undertake and she succeeded in doing so.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#24re: pop-stars,,,ick!!!
Posted: 9/13/04 at 5:53pm
Hey, you know what? Hugh Jackman never sang in his life before being cast in Beauty and the Beast. He was just some guy who'd been cast in (wait for it) a TV show. If the producers then had thought he was unworthy of being in a musical because he had no voice training, we wouldn't be talking about the last performance of BFO today. And it's quite likely we wouldn't know who Hugh Jackman is at all.
When it comes to stage presence, you either got it or you ain't. And if a pop star happens to know how to make him or herself the most compelling thing in the theater, more power to them. I don't want to hear about this "worthiness" crap.
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