#2
Posted: 12/17/03 at 2:11pm
The whole point is that she doesn't become and never is wicked (except when fooling around with Fiyero). It's the perception the Wizard, et al, want us to accept.
#3
Posted: 12/17/03 at 3:36pm
In the song "Thank Goodness" Madame Morrible is spreading lies and telling everyone that Elphaba is Wicked. Everybody believes her, and although Glinda knows it's not true she doesn't do anything to correct it, so everybody believes the lies.
She never is really Wicked...just misunderstood.
She never is really Wicked...just misunderstood.
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#5
Posted: 12/17/03 at 3:46pm
hahaha read my mind. 
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#6
Posted: 12/17/03 at 3:59pm
Do they say why she is green?
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#7
Posted: 12/17/03 at 4:39pm
PERFECT..that is what i was getting from the recording..i havent been able to afford to see the show..but thought the plot was very familiar..so not a good versus evil story...and i love the song Defying Gravity..if they can showcase that somewhere..they ought to soon..its amazing..i.e. on the tonys
#8
Posted: 12/17/03 at 4:44pm
deleted because i dont know if it was a spoiler
Updated On: 12/18/03 at 04:44 PM
#9
Posted: 12/17/03 at 5:13pm
they will probably do some sort of medley at the tonys
#10
Posted: 12/17/03 at 5:43pm
In the book, Elpheba's mother cheats on her husband with a troll. For that reason, the child is born geeen.
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#11
Posted: 12/17/03 at 5:49pm
Defying Gravity MUST be performed at the Tonys
Joel Gray sings some of "Wonderful" then Kristen Menzel do some of "Popular" and it ends with a transition to "Defying Gravity" as the cast comes out for that song.
SO IF YOU CARE TO FIND ME,
LOOK TO THE WESTERN SKY!
Joel Gray sings some of "Wonderful" then Kristen Menzel do some of "Popular" and it ends with a transition to "Defying Gravity" as the cast comes out for that song.
SO IF YOU CARE TO FIND ME,
LOOK TO THE WESTERN SKY!
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#12
Posted: 12/17/03 at 6:24pm
Why Wonderful?!?! Yeah I know its Joel Grey but that song is not nearly as good as Popular or Defying Gravity, as you mentioned, or most of the other songs I've heard on the CD for that matter. You need to sell it to those casual Bway audiences. The best way to do that is to make sure Idina and Kristen get their face time. They both have INCREDIBLE voices and they definitely will appeal to the average Joe and Jane! Joel is a theatre legend but its not his show.
#14
Posted: 12/17/03 at 6:43pm
they prob will do wonderful just bc its joel grey....and they wont do dancing through life
#16
Posted: 12/17/03 at 7:30pm
I don't remember reading that Frex cursed her because of not being male.
I think in the show, it's different't, though. I know Elphaba's mother cheated on her husband with some man who tempted her into drinking a green potion of some sort, so that's why, I believe.
I think in the show, it's different't, though. I know Elphaba's mother cheated on her husband with some man who tempted her into drinking a green potion of some sort, so that's why, I believe.
#17
Posted: 12/17/03 at 7:38pm
oh yeah i did read that. nevermind. i thought i read something else like taht. i guess i made it up or something
#18
Posted: 12/17/03 at 8:32pm
Careful, all. Elphaba's genetic history is a major, major plot point in both the novel, and the 2nd act of the show. I'd advise anyone who posts here to be generous of spirit towards those who might be holding tickets. I was happy to see that the plot twists were withheld from the CD booklet.
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#19
Posted: 12/17/03 at 9:46pm
I won't say who her father is, but he's not a troll. lol Do they even have trolls in OZ?
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#20
Posted: 12/17/03 at 9:50pm
Who knows TheatreBaby? Lets go to Oz and find out!! :)
#21
Posted: 12/17/03 at 10:01pm
Updated On: 12/18/03 at 10:01 PM
#22
Posted: 12/17/03 at 10:22pm
OK, that was either really stupid on your part or just plain rude. Why would you say who her Father is when there are a lot of people who haven't seen the show yet?!
Even if it is in the book, not everyone reads the book before seeing the musical.
Even if it is in the book, not everyone reads the book before seeing the musical.
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Updated On: 12/17/03 at 10:22 PM
#23
Posted: 12/17/03 at 10:32pm
It is like Millie!
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#24
Posted: 12/17/03 at 11:09pm
I'm with you, Theaterbaby. Time for some to have enough courtesy to at least use what most other boards use: "Spoiler." Shame on anyone for tossing off a major plot reveal in so cavalier a fashion. I personally think it indicates a total insensitivity to those who may want a coupla surprises for their hundred bucks.
Let the season be a reminder: Kids pick up packages all through December and say "what's in it?!" A nice enough parent -- or even well-meaning stranger -- has the grace to say "wait till the holidays to see."
Let the season be a reminder: Kids pick up packages all through December and say "what's in it?!" A nice enough parent -- or even well-meaning stranger -- has the grace to say "wait till the holidays to see."
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
Updated On: 12/17/03 at 11:09 PM
#25
Posted: 12/17/03 at 11:42pm
exactly... what is it?? A status sign that you know the plot?? PLease........
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