Profile for TheatreFan4

darquegk said: "Flop or not, I'd bet that the reason for the film to exist is to keep the Wicked/Oz visuals in the public consciousness perpetually enough that Universal can make one of its theme park realms Oz.

A series of flop Dark Universe reimaginings of their horror staples turned out to be nothing more than extended commercials for the Dark Universe theme park realm... and from what I hear, that place is EXTRAORDINARY and an instant fan favorite, so it was worth

BJR said: "Y'all. If you don't like AI, don't use it. But to act like hating it or demonizing it is going to make it go anywhere, when it's already everywhere and it's just started.

I say whether it's the book, the song, the AI agreement, we let the girl make some money to pay for herand Lorna's retirement. It's their mother, not ours."

No actually you don't have to roll over and accept that AI is exploiting people

binau said: "I kind of agree with you about the ethical issues. To steal someone’s likeness and try and replicate that especially without consent is ethically dubious territory.

But if we are talking about the art, hypothetically if it could produce the likeness in a way that is indistinguishable from the real thing would you still reject it? Ie is it just the principle rather than the outcome?"

Well... Yeah I would because I know that it's not t

Merkin2 said: "Ai knows what it’s told. It has the entire internet at its disposal with clips and information about Judy Garland and the way she performed. AI can absolutelycreate a video of Judy garland singing another winter in a summer town. Why do you keep denying this? I don’t see any harm in it, it’s just fun. Nobody here is suggesting it’s capable of human emotion, go listen to what Ben affleck said."

It quite literally is puppeting a c

binau said: "And it’s funny the rhetorical device you used ‘simple people’ - ok so now if we don’t agree with you we are simple now are we? Lolol. I am not simple and I am going to leverage AI for the fullest extent of its capabilities to experience the sounds I want to hear when the real thing can’t produce them anymore."

Because it's for shallow dopamine hits. Enjoy the work they actually created instead of puppeting a corpse to da

Merkin2 said: "I think Ai can have Ai Judy Garland sing a song in the style of Judy. There’s clips of her singing somewhere over the rainbow looking forlornly so they can imagine what her singing another winter in a summer town might be like"

...So No?

What about Somewhere Over The Rainbow and Another Winter are even similar? Like I said, simple people are easy to entertain but it's not going make it Judy. A celebrity impersonator can dress up as Che

binau said: "Are you saying that given an indefinite amount of time that AI will never be able to produce a convincing replication of Judy Garland singing Another Winter in a Summer Town? (Great suggestion by the way I’d love to hear that). Of course it will. I don’t get what you mean haha. And when it can, it might feel a bit icky and uncanny but ultimately my mind will process the timbre of Judy Garland’s voice and enjoy the song when the sound is convincing enoug

binau said: "I genuinely can't wait until the technology reaches a stage that we will be a able to hear Judy Garland perform every Broadway musical (think Rose, many of the ladies in Follies, even weird things like Sunday I'd be interested to hear her sing both leads). We will also have Bernadette singing Sweeney etc.

It's a scary future but there will be some good things to come from AI, at least for me."

You'll never hear that because AI

Gizmo6 said: "People also forget the name has Gypsy has a double meaning, it's the stage name of Gypsy Rose Lee, a Burlesque performer and in the early to mid 20th Century performers were called Gypsies because they travelled city to city it's actually explained in detail in the musical Applause with the song "She's no longer a Gypsy" with the character elevating from the chorus dancers to a leading role.

We should not project modern identity anxietie

The thing is that her stage name "Gypsy" comes directly from the intention "Gypsy" is always used in. Travelers, it is a known slur for Romani people. There is no way anybody could argue it another way. That is why her name is "Gypsy". The Robe was called that for the exact same reason. They were "Gypsies" traveling from show to show. It all goes back to the original use of it as a slur that was then co-opted by people as not a slur. 

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