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CSC 2025-2026 Season
 Jun 12 2025, 06:35:05 PM

Tenor8674 said: "Always thought CSC or the Roundabout would be perfect to produce The Baker's Wife. I liked it a lot when the Papermill did it years ago. However, I am disappointed that Endless Delights has been excised from the licensed show."

Quite a few years back, when Stephen Schwartz was answering messages on his website, someone asked about Endless Delights and he said it would NEVER EVER be back in (I think this was shortly after the Paper Mill which cut


City Centers 24-25: Ragtime, Urinetown, LaChiusa's Wild Party, Love Life
 May 1 2025, 05:46:12 AM

Shalfoard said: "Here's what the original production with Rosaline Russell looked like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsxzyqJX5wY
"

That is one of my all time fave TV productions of a musical, and I listen to its cast album (which is in stereo) more than the original cast album, which does contain two (I believe) songs left out of the actual telecast although What a Waste at any rate isn't performed the way it is on stage.  VAI was planning to release it on DVD remastered as best as possible (they had released the TV Kiss Me Kate, Bloomer Girl, etc) which was confirmed on email to me but I don't know what happened.

Of course it isn't exactly what the original looked like--only some of the original cast is there (most notably, apparently Roz Russell refused to have Edie Adams return as Eileen,) there are some edits, and the original choreography and production is different (with a young Herbert Ross contributing there.)  But it is absolutely terrific to have.

 


Broadway Flops you love that everybody else hates
 Apr 2 2025, 06:09:39 AM

So much of it is due to how we perceive these shows... Pacific Overtures is one of my favourite scores AND shows, but I know that even Prince and everyone involved with the show seemed to expect it to run about as long as it did means in my head I don't think of it as a flop (and also it's not a show I feel that everybody else hates ;) )


Broadway Flops you love that everybody else hates
 Apr 1 2025, 08:29:52 PM

Lot666 said: "The mentions of Whistle Down the Wind reminded me of another ALW shows that I loved, but didn't last very long: The Woman in White."

...yeah I'm a fan too (though I think it has more problems than Whistle.)  I have to wonder if some of that is simply because I love Victorian sensation serialized novels (part of my MA was about them) and Woman in White is the key text in that genre--and of course a lot of my issues with the


Broadway Flops you love that everybody else hates
 Apr 1 2025, 06:24:21 AM

fray3 said: "Whistle down the wind"

I get the most pushback from people when I tell them how much I loved Whistle Down the Wind in the Gale Edwards production in London--which I actually saw just because I knew about its troubles in the Hal Prince version that never got to Broadway and wanted to see a flop (it had just opened in London when I moved there.)  So my expectations were low, but I really loved the production (well... the Southern accents aside.) 


Broadway Flops you love that everybody else hates
 Mar 31 2025, 05:58:19 PM

Chaz Hands said: "Promises, Promises and Tuck Everlasting for me.

The most recent revival of Promises was miscast, and they should’ve leaned more into the seriousness of the storyline versus playing most of it for laughs..
"

Promises was such a massive critical and commercial hit when it premiered, that I have a hard time placing it here even if it's rarely revived, but I do think it's a better show than its given credit for.  The rev


Mid-Century Modern - now streaming on Hulu
 Mar 31 2025, 05:08:04 PM

Jonathan Cohen said: "
Lavin did great work on the show but I actually thought the last episode, which heavily featured Pamela Adlon and Richard Kind, was by far the best of the series.Adlon, who will replace Lavin if the show gets picked up for a second season, can more organically be woven into plots with the other three roommates. During the first 8 episodes, it was sometimes a struggle finding reasons for Lavin to hang out with her son's friends, which is less of an issu


Mid-Century Modern - now streaming on Hulu
 Mar 28 2025, 09:07:29 PM

I'm only half way through--and I can already tell there'll be a hole in the show when Lavin leaves, but it's working far better for me than I ever expected, and I think the best work from creators Max Mutchnick and David Kohan (plus all the other writers) since the best era of Will and Grace, which admittedly given their track record may sound like faint praise.  The cast really has chemistry, for the most part the guest star cameos have worked for me and not overwhelmed the


City Centers 24-25: Ragtime, Urinetown, LaChiusa's Wild Party, Love Life
 Mar 27 2025, 05:39:05 PM

yfs said: "I haven't read the article but in my one interview with Hal Prince he was very vocal about how much Love Life meant to him and how influential it had been on his thinking once he became a director."

Is that interview online anywhere?  I don't doubt you--and the article does make a much stronger case than I was aware of before for these influences--at least when it comes to Prince, Ebb, and Fosse, not so much Sondheim.  And I can't


City Centers 24-25: Ragtime, Urinetown, LaChiusa's Wild Party, Love Life
 Mar 27 2025, 05:35:15 PM

From all I've read, I do see her point that playing up the kids sentimentalizes the show which maybe mixes its intention.

I found Steve Suskin's review interesting.  I know him mostly as a Broadway historian (his amazing but rather academix book on the history of Broadway orchestrations, etc) but he seems to have it out for Love Life in general calling it basically "a bad musical" I expected him to be one of the few defenders, and indeed he seems to think the


City Centers 24-25: Ragtime, Urinetown, LaChiusa's Wild Party, Love Life
 Mar 27 2025, 06:21:42 AM

Thanks so much for that!  It looks like a great article--I did a quick scan but will read it more in depth tomorrow when I'm actually awake   (But it is amusing how in the footnote quote Sondheim seems so strongly opposed to the very suggestion that Love Life influenced him--the denial is so strong that it makes me wonder if he actually was more than he wants to admit.  Sondheim's comments about Weill, as the article points out, have always been particularly contradictory in general)  I will say one thing about the Follies comparison, the eventual "plot-less" examination of two marriages structure of Follies, of course, came about from Hal Prince's concept more than Sondheim or James Goldman--their original The Girls Upstairs was quite plot heavy.

Ultimately, I know it doesn't really matter, but when I read statements that full out say Love Life was a direct influence on, say, Kander and Ebb or Sondheim, I still feel that's maybe hyperbole.  Yes, for example, it did the vaudeville concept before Chicago did, but I'm really not sure Love Life was on the radar or in the memories of Fosse, Kander or Ebb enough to be much of an influence on their musical, they just took a similar approach.  And yet Fred Ebb does call Love Life a "useful influence" as quoted in your link...


City Centers 24-25: Ragtime, Urinetown, LaChiusa's Wild Party, Love Life
 Mar 27 2025, 03:22:04 AM

TheatreMonkey said: "

I get this. The briefest of synopsis makes you think it's some sweeping epic of America, told through the journey of one family. But it's really a product of it's time -- an operetta, interspersed with a few scenes, and various vignettes of commentary style. Yet it really doesn't feel like a fully-fleshed out book musical. (And this is just based on the recording of the recent UK opera production.)"

And I mean, a l


BEACHES The Musical (or, musicals that replaced the composer & score)
 Mar 21 2025, 06:00:33 PM

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "

Movie adaptations like THE BODYGUARD and FLASHDANCE went straight to touring. LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE also toured but didn't go to Broadway. A show premiering in Canada vs a U.S. regional vs London doesn'treallymatter."

Right--both Six and Hadestown played in not Calgary but Edmonton, Alberta, on the way to Broadway.

 


Snow White 2025
 Mar 20 2025, 06:24:30 PM

fashionguru_23 said: "

To be honest, I loved "One Song" for the Prince. Does he sing in the film?"

One Song is so underrated I think--just simply gorgeous, although it's also the biggest throwback to the hit Romberg/Hammerstein operettas (Desert Song, New Moon) from a decade before--of course while Broadway had moved away from operetta, Disney was smart and there was a big flux of interest in it in Hollywood at this time.

 


BEACHES The Musical (or, musicals that replaced the composer & score)
 Mar 20 2025, 04:38:07 PM

Not quite the same thing, but producer Sam Gesser was obsessed with mounting a musical of Mordecai Richler's The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz.  Initially he had Richler write the book and (here's they are again!) Leiber and Stoller write the score, with Lonny Price in the lead, and it would start with a Canadian tour given the source material.  But apparently the mix of score and book didn't work--nothing worked except Lonny--and it died in 1984 before even getting to


Snow White 2025
 Mar 19 2025, 09:28:38 PM

joevitus said: "

Exploiting the IP is definitely the goal, but I don't think anything about this film keeps elements of the 1938 film in copyrightlonger than it currently is set for. But I could be wrong about that. Maybe rather than "I don't see the point of making these kinds of movies" I should have said "I don't think there's good enough reasontomake these movies.""

I think you're right that it won't real


SMASH Previews
 Mar 19 2025, 09:26:24 PM

Reading about this makes me think about the 1957 minor Broadway hit Say, Darling, which was a play with music, based on Richard Bissell's semi-fictional memoir about his experiences having his book 7 1/2 Cents adapted into a musical--The Pajama Game. 

From Wiki:

" While the play featured nine original songs with lyrics by Betty Comden and Adolph Green and music by Jule Styne, all the songs are presented as either rehearsal or audition material."

Obscure reference, and likely not one anyone involved was thinking of, but...


Snow White 2025
 Mar 19 2025, 08:17:33 PM

I haven't loved a Pasek and Paul score since Dogfight, or liked one since Dear Evan Hansen really, but they were always a poor fit for this material I think (especially since it does try to integrate some of the original 1937 score which was pretty heavily influenced by operetta--  But boy do they sound generic.)

Listening to the soundtrack without having seen the movie does give me an increased appreciation for Alan Menken (with Schwartz and Slater respectively) and his work


BOOP! Previews
 Mar 13 2025, 05:31:34 PM

VernonGersch said: "I wish everyone well but David Foster is a Trumper and will not support anything with his name on it. He is a miserable human."

Is he?  I know he was friends or friendly with Trump in the past and did a cancer benefit concert at Marla, but he did support Clinton during Trump's first run (and turned down an offer to organize Trump's inauguration) and I haven't heard anything since then.  I mean I've never been a big fan (g


Bernadette Peters & Lea Salonga to Lead OLD FRIENDS On Broadway
 Feb 11 2025, 04:45:31 PM

VernonGersch said: "meredithchandler73 said: "Why were certain shows represented more than others? I can't swear to this, but I think I read somewhere that Cameron Mackintosh selected heavily from Sondheim shows he has produced, including his previous revues."

at the start of the show bern and lea address the audience with some chit chatand talk about how the selections were all made from shows Cameron produced in London over the years - and that'


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