Broadway Legend Joined: 1/21/20
The wikipedia page for the film mentions that the final film screenplay was the result of 8 writers and barely resembled the original draft by Gina Wendkos. So a little intriguing that she is adapting and writing the book for the musical. From her original screenplay? The one in the film that barely resembles the one she wrote?
Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!
Leading Actor Joined: 3/26/24
Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?
rosscoe(au) said: "Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!"
Broadway Star Joined: 3/29/25
Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?"
Hundreds of movies are made each year. A very very small percentage of them ever get turned into musicals or plays.
Leading Actor Joined: 3/26/24
Lets see if we can get that percentage lower...just from what I know is in development - it is all movies all the time.
SteveSanders said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?"
Hundreds of movies are made each year. A very very small percentage of them ever get turned into musicals or plays.
"
Diane Warren keeps missing out on the Oscar, so I guess she's gunning for the Olivier instead
Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?
rosscoe(au) said: "Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!"
Can we turn GOOD movies into musicals. Not everything works for the stage - Beaches, etc - and this doesn't strike me as too theatrical. I could understand why with the bar dancing, but the characters don't seem big enough.
Ensemble1711444445 said: "Lets see if we can get that percentage lower...just from what I knowis in development -it is all movies all the time.
SteveSanders said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?"
Hundreds of movies are made each year. A very very small percentage of them ever get turned into musicals or plays.
"
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It used to be plays and books... but nobody reads books or goes to plays anymore. You adapt from what's in the vernacular, and film has BEEN the vernacular for at least half a century.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/12/09
You have no clue how much this means to me. A Coyote Ugly Musical really is right up my alley and there's literally multiple musical numbers in the movie.
Broadway Star Joined: 3/29/25
Some of you and your sweeping generalizations. Geez.
okfromthetop said: "Diane Warren keeps missing out on the Oscar, so I guess she's gunning for the Olivier instead"
The Coyote Ugly musical gets adapted back into a movie.
Diane Warren writes a new song or two.
She still doesn't win a Best Original Song Oscar.
RippedMan said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?
rosscoe(au) said: "Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!"
Can we turn GOOD movies into musicals. Not everything works for the stage - Beaches, etc - and this doesn't strike me as too theatrical. I could understand why with the bar dancing, but the characters don't seem big enough.
"
This is the exact opposite of what needs to happen. There is no purpose in turning good movies into musicals. By nature of being good you are begin the process at a place of "inserting songs into thing that was already good in it's original form." The skill in adapting is not writing perfectly acceptable songs and shoving them into a story we all already liked. It's taking something that's questionable and creating a work that delivers.
Now, that being said, the idea of a Diane Warren musical makes me wanna walk off a bridge. Tesori (with what lyricist I couldn't say) or JRB would've been my choice for this. The main character wants to be a Laurel Canyon redux singer-songwriter. Personally, I find that quite boring but both composers have proven themselves capable of translating that vibe into true blue musical theatre. They can also do the rowdier numbers that the bar scenes call for.
Warren will probably eek out one tolerable ballad for this but an entire evening of them? God save us all.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/12/09
Ke3 said: "This is the exact opposite of what needs to happen. There is no purpose in turning good movies into musicals. By nature of being good you are begin the processat a place of "inserting songs into thing that was already good in it's original form." The skill in adapting is not writing perfectly acceptable songs and shoving them into a story we all already liked. It's taking something that's questionable and creating a work that delivers."
This is a basic as hell take.
Ke3 said: "RippedMan said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?
rosscoe(au) said: "Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!"
Can we turn GOOD movies into musicals. Not everything works for the stage - Beaches, etc - and this doesn't strike me as too theatrical. I could understand why with the bar dancing, but the characters don't seem big enough.
"
This is the exact opposite of what needs to happen. There is no purpose in turning good movies into musicals. By nature of being good you are begin the processat a place of "inserting songs into thing that was already good in it's original form." The skill in adapting is not writing perfectly acceptable songs and shoving them into a story we all already liked. It's taking something that's questionable and creating a work that delivers.
Now, that being said, the idea of a Diane Warren musical makes me wanna walk off a bridge. Tesori (with what lyricist I couldn't say) or JRB would've been my choice for this. The main character wants to be a Laurel Canyon redux singer-songwriter. Personally, I find that quite boring but both composers have proven themselves capable of translating that vibe into true blue musical theatre. They can also do the rowdier numbers that the bar scenes callfor.
Warren will probably eek out one tolerable ballad for this but an entire evening of them? God save us all."
Except Warren wrote the four songs Piper Perabo’s sings in the film and recorded and made famous by LeAnn Rimes. So having Diane Warren write the music you know damn well the songs “But I Do Love You” and “ Can’t Fight the Moonlight” will make it into the show. Although they absolutely should try and get The Devil went down to Georgia included in the show!
Also… slightly off topic haha, but when I was in Denver before going to see my favorite artist Tash Sultana at Red Rocks, my best friend and I kept seeing these signs with arrows saying “this way to the best views in Denver” so we were following these random signs and they brought us up this large stairway going up…. Leading us to a Coyote Ugly bar. 🤣
I can't imagine a genuinely theatrical score from Diane Warren.
Ke3 said: "RippedMan said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?
rosscoe(au) said: "Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!"
Can we turn GOOD movies into musicals. Not everything works for the stage - Beaches, etc - and this doesn't strike me as too theatrical. I could understand why with the bar dancing, but the characters don't seem big enough.
"
This is the exact opposite of what needs to happen. There is no purpose in turning good movies into musicals. By nature of being good you are begin the processat a place of "inserting songs into thing that was already good in it's original form." The skill in adapting is not writing perfectly acceptable songs and shoving them into a story we all already liked. It's taking something that's questionable and creating a work that delivers.
Now, that being said, the idea of a Diane Warren musical makes me wanna walk off a bridge. Tesori (with what lyricist I couldn't say) or JRB would've been my choice for this. The main character wants to be a Laurel Canyon redux singer-songwriter. Personally, I find that quite boring but both composers have proven themselves capable of translating that vibe into true blue musical theatre. They can also do the rowdier numbers that the bar scenes callfor.
Warren will probably eke out one tolerable ballad for this but an entire evening of them? God save us all."
I’m sorry but a Tesori Coyote Ugly is a wild idea haha. This show just needs to be fun and catchy. They aren’t going for art.
RippedMan said: "Ke3 said: "RippedMan said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?
rosscoe(au) said: "Im happy to be surprised. But truthfully no thanks!"
Can we turn GOOD movies into musicals. Not everything works for the stage - Beaches, etc - and this doesn't strike me as too theatrical. I could understand why with the bar dancing, but the characters don't seem big enough.
"
This is the exact opposite of what needs to happen. There is no purpose in turning good movies into musicals. By nature of being good you are begin the processat a place of "inserting songs into thing that was already good in it's original form." The skill in adapting is not writing perfectly acceptable songs and shoving them into a story we all already liked. It's taking something that's questionable and creating a work that delivers.
Now, that being said, the idea of a Diane Warren musical makes me wanna walk off a bridge. Tesori (with what lyricist I couldn't say) or JRB would've been my choice for this. The main character wants to be a Laurel Canyon redux singer-songwriter. Personally, I find that quite boring but both composers have proven themselves capable of translating that vibe into true blue musical theatre. They can also do the rowdier numbers that the bar scenes callfor.
Warren will probably ekeout one tolerable ballad for this but an entire evening of them? God save us all."
I’m sorry but a Tesori Coyote Ugly is a wild idea haha. This show just needs to be fun and catchy. They aren’t going for art."
But to me that is the problem! Aim for art even if what you end up with doesn't land as art. Why do I wanna pay Broadway prices to see a show that admits from the beginning it has no real plans to try?
As for the other person who called my take on good musicals basic, sure! If not wanting to see good movies be needlessly interrupted by songs is basic, then I'm basic. I think if the creators are actually going to develop a new work then I'm willing to give it a shot. But for the past twenty years it's been Thing You Already Like: With Songs (That Aren't Very Good)! and no real attempt to justify the transfer to a new medium.
Recalling Hammerstein's assignments for the young Sondheim, I think good musicals can be made from good material or very flawed material. Maybe it's easier to answer the "why" question when the source material isn't very good to begin with, but it's definitely possible to take a great movie and adapt it into a great musical: Smiles of a Summer Night and Hairspray come to mind.
kdogg36 said: "Recalling Hammerstein's assignments for the young Sondheim, I think good musicals can be made from good material or very flawed material. Maybe it's easier to answer the "why" question when the source material isn't very good to begin with, but it's definitely possible to take a great movie and adapt it into a great musical:Smiles of a Summer NightandHairspraycome to mind."
This is true! Both of these meet my requirement of embracing the idea that they are making a new work not the same work with songs. But of course the composers involved in those projects come from an era of musical theatre where there was less inward contempt for the medium. It's harder to embrace creating a musical when your actual goal in life was to write pop songs.
Jerry Mitchell isn't right for every musical, but this one could be a perfect fit for him. Quite interesting.
SteveSanders said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Love everyone involved. But can we stop with every movie needs to be a musical?"
Hundreds of movies are made each year. A very very small percentage of them ever get turned into musicals or plays.
"
And somehow they're always directed by Jerry Mitchell.
I love him, I do, but this is just the latest musical adaptation he's been involved, not counting all the pre-Broadway or pre-West End runs and various forms of development. Is there anyone? Perhaps a female director in this case?
Understudy Joined: 5/3/17
It's very BURLESQUE in its set-up, but a few things about this intrigue me. The first is that the original writer is adapting it. If it is going back to her original screenplay before it was put through the Hollywood factory, maybe the producers are aiming for a storyline with a bit more sincerity.
The second is that the story actually presents itself as a great framework for a musical. If you know the movie, you can see a lot of the numbers forming in your head and how, if the money is there, they can make an impressive staging.
Then again, it could be BURLESQUE :)
Perhaps. But he's a good choice. He has a strong track record with development - particularly with female driven musicals. (I'm sure up and coming female directors are upset but ...) his career speaks for itself and will give additional credit to the piece (with many shows flopping). Prada isn't great in London but it's 100 times better than it was in the US.
Many of the current female directors & up and coming women directors have sadly faltered with new musicals/development recently, being more connected to new plays - causing producing folks to want a "sure thing". His career showcases strength with something like this. Legally Blond comes to mind. it's more of the "sure thing" with millions of $ on the line.
You mean, like, with his development of the female-driven "Boop"?
All joking aside, I don't know if he brings anything more or less to the table than a number of other folks could.
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