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Accidental Racist

"The song by the unlikely duo of Brad Paisley and LL Cool J, “Accidental Racist,” was slammed by music critics and fans alike for its attempt at a dialogue on race between two men from starkly different backgrounds with lyrics like “If you don’t judge my do-rag … I won’t judge your red flag” and “If you don’t judge my gold chains … I’ll forget the iron chains.”

The country singer, 40, and his rapper counterpart, 45, say the national debate sparked by their song, released on Paisley’s new album, “Wheelhouse,” is exactly what they wanted to happen.

“I’m not really sure we’re going to find any answers but it was the idea that we were asking the question,” Paisley said in an exclusive interview with his duet partner that aired today on “Good Morning America.”

“Martin Luther King says that darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can,” LL Cool J said. “Hate can’t drive out hate, only love can. So what we’re talking about is compassion.”

“Accidental Racist” focuses specifically on how northerners like LL Cool J, who grew up in New York City, view Southerners, like Paisley, a native of West Virginia, and vice versa.

WATCH: Brad Paisley Discusses Duet With LL Cool J

“I’m not advising anyone to truly forget slavery, but what I’m saying is forget the slavery mentality,” LL Cool J said. “Forget the bitterness. Don’t get bitter, get better.”

Critics have been especially harsh on specific lines in the song like LL Cool J’s singing “let bygones be bygones,” and Paisley singing that white Americans are “still paying for mistakes that a bunch of folks made before we came.”

“Some people take exception to some of the lyrics [and] I respect that,” LL Cool J said. “I’m sensitive to that.”


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You kind of have to hear the song to appreciate how truly horrible it is- but You Tube seems to have been scrubbed of it.

I don't understand why a black man wearing a gold chain is as offensive to white people as slavery is to black people (or to everyone for that matter). I don't understand why you'd wear a confederate flag to show your support of Lynyrd Skynyrd- is that really a thing? Would anyone wear a swastika to show they dig Wagner? And White People aren't being blamed for things that were done before they were born- but maybe they could take responsibility for things they did today?


Oh LL. What were you thinking?

Updated On: 4/10/13 at 10:14 AM

#2

Accidental Racist

Wearing a confederate flag to show your support of Lynyrd Skynyrd is very much a thing. I grew up in Georgia and you'd see many a "good ole boy" rocking the two synonymously.

A lot of Skynyrd merchandise also featured the flag, though it's looking like they've stopped putting it on the official merchandise.

I've been away from Georgia for nearly 16 years now, so I may not be the best spokesperson anymore, but I can tell you that seeing a confederate flag on someone's hat, painted on their truck or even flying in the yard didn't raise anywhere near the ire that it should have.

#5

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Supposedly, LS tried to discontinue using the image of the confederate flag due to the racist connotation, but fans wouldnt have it so they brought it back claiming it as southern heritage.
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And I call BULLSH*T on anyone not knowing that it's offensive. They know. That's why they wear it.

And for some stupid reason, the damn flag is pretty popular over here in Sweden. Teenagers think it represents rebellion.

I just heard this song this morning and it really pissed me off.
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#7

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The problem with the song is that it makes sweeping generalizations about groups of people.


"And for some stupid reason, the damn flag is pretty popular over here in Sweden. Teenagers think it represents rebellion."

It's the same with the Che Guevera t-shirts and flags.
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#8

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whether you think the song sukks or not, i give credit for the two for at least trying to get a conversation going, trying to understand eachother and bring people together and not apart ... people are too damn sensitive and see slights where there arent any. if there was more talk and converstation maybe that wouldnt be


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Updated On: 4/10/13 at 10:41 AM

#9

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This Op Ed piece from LZ Granderson sums the whole thing up correctly I think.


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#10

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Patronus, were Dixie Outfitters shirts a trend when you were in Georgia? I remember my high school classmates wearing them practically every day, and every one would have a Confederate flag. And maybe an alligator in mud. That was about 11-13 years ago.

I think that, for some of them, they wore the flag out of ignorance of what it represented. It was an emblem of Southern pride that actually represented horrible acts by the South.

Updated On: 4/10/13 at 10:41 AM

#11

Accidental Racist

>> I don't understand why a black man wearing a gold chain is as offensive to white people as slavery is to black people

Just guessing, but I would think it has something to do with the attendant "thug" lifestyle of crime, abuse and tokenism of women, and drugs.

Personally, I think anyone wearing a gold chain, regardless of gender or skin colour, needs a stint at the Versachi School of Fashion Rehab, but that's just me.
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#12

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Are we sure this isn't a Jim Colyer song?
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#13

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And I call BULLSH*T on anyone not knowing that it's offensive. They know. That's why they wear it.

That's a pretty sweeping generalization. I agree that a lot of people flying their rebel flags know full well that it's offensive. However, many young people blindly trust their parents (as they should be able to up to a certain age) and don't realize that things that are said flippantly and commonplace in their home are offensive.

My family is full of a lot of rednecks. There were confederate flags around a lot when I was a kid and my understanding at the time was that it was a "southern flag". That's what my parents told me. As an 8 year old kid there isn't shouldn't be any distrust or indication that your parents are wrong about something as simple as a flag.

Obviously as I got older I figured it out, but a lot of kids don't always go out into the world and see more than their surrounds.

I consider myself as having above average intelligence (well, slightly) and it took me putting my foot in my mouth with friends in my late teens before I learned that "spic" was an offensive term rather than just another name for Hispanic people. I also thought the phrase was "Chew them down" until I used it front a good Jewish friend in the Virgin Megastore in New York City. It all seems so silly and obvious as an adult in my mid 30s, but at the time it was all about opportunity and context in my small part of the world.

Just like it's naive and dangerous to make generalizations about any race, sexual orientation, gender etc I think it's equally so to make generalizations about "everyone and anyone" knowing that what they are doing is offensive to many people.

If anything, the fact that young people are still using the word gay and fag so flippantly to describe "things that are not cool" shows that there is no "bull**** on anyone not knowing that it's offensive".

People think that hateful words and symbols can have double meaning, but they don't always stop to think that the negative meaning for some people is just far too much to overlook.
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Patronus, were Dixie Outfitters shirts a trend when you were in Georgia? I remember my high school classmates wearing them practically every day, and every one would have a Confederate flag. And maybe an alligator in mud. That was about 11-13 years ago.

Yeah, they were just coming into "style" when I left GA.

BTW, one thing I forgot to mention in my last diatribe was that I agree that the song is absolutely terrible. I think their heart is in the right place, but making a vast political statement is hard to do in a country western ballad, imo.
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"Just guessing, but I would think it has something to do with the attendant "thug" lifestyle of crime, abuse and tokenism of women, and drugs."

Except that Italian men have worn gold chains for a long time. Gold chains were a huge fashion item in the 1970s. The thug lifestyle didn't pick up the gold chains until everyone else was tired of wearing them.

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Patranos that was an interesting story, i mean it.

I dont find the flags or the chains offensive, just dumb, they are hurting themselves

yesterday i was walking down W4th and a group of guys were walking in front of me with their pants literally almost down to their knees. i wouldnt say i was offended, that came later when they started grabbing their junk and making kissy noises. I just thought, wow, these guys will have little chance of succeeding in life. if only someone would wake them up.
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#17

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I lived in Tennessee on the Kentucky state line until I was 29. People in my family embraced the confederate flag, some going so far as to have it tattooed on body parts. Even if they consider it to be about heritage, they know what it represents to a lot of people. I have never worn or owned anything in my life with that flag. As a child, I knew better.

Maybe my statement was a sweeping generalization, but it is what I have witnessed first hand. If it's honestly a child or a mentally challenged person, I would chalk it up to ignorance, but there's no way an adult of full mental capacity doesn't know what it represents to a HUGE percentage of the population.


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Updated On: 4/10/13 at 11:20 AM

#18

Accidental Racist

JG2 is correct. I grew up in north Florida where that ugly ass flag is everywhere. And there's absolutely no way in hell that each and every one of those redneck racists doesn't know what it represents. They might only have two brain cells and even less teeth, but they know enough to hate the darkies what cuz they's needs at go back t'Afrika and make 'murca a white country like it were what when Columbus discovered it.
#19

Accidental Racist

This song is so full of white guilt, its a joke and comparing gold chains to the iron chains of slavery is ridicilious. Talking about going to the starbucks over on main street. The maxon dixon needs some fixin. LOL

This song has to be a joke. Read the lyrics, its hilariously bad
#20

Accidental Racist

Again, I get the point that you guys are making but in a climate where we're trying to show people that stereotypes about LGBT or even more simply liberals aren't what middle america or the south think they are how is productive to say "each and everyone", "everybody" etc?

I'm saying that I know people first hand who are of adult age that don't understand the full scope of how that flag impacts people. I also know black people who don't know enough to be completely offended by the people who ARE aware the the flag represents hatred and bigotry.

That alone invalidates "everyone" because I'm giving you personal examples of people that don't understand.

To label them automatically as redneck racists or worse - deem them mentally challenged is just as short sighted as the stereotypes that people cast down on our community.

Just like I know you guys aren't bad people and are using hyperbole to make your point it's also possible that there are people outside of your experience who haven't had the luxury of education or understanding.

It's important to remember that change works both ways folks.

If nothing else hopefully this terrible song at least opens a dialogue. Maybe racists on both sides can join together in the common ground of finding this song forced and silly. :)
#21

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And you know what I hate more than any skin color, orientation or antiquated belief? The fact that for some reason I can't edit my posts on this site despite many people being able to edit theirs.

Grrr. Arrrgh.
#22

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1) I know Skynyrd has used a confederate flag in their marketing- several bands have, actually. But if someone wore a swastika, would you accept their explanation that it was because they loved Richard Wagner? I'm totally serious when I ask that.

(When my Mom was a young girl, on a vacation in the southwest, she bought a Navajo blanket that featured in its pattern an unusual cross-like design. A few years later, that design was adopted and renamed by the Nazi Party. she put the blanket away for many years and finally, in the 80's, threw it away for fear that someone would see it among her thing after she died and think her a Nazi- although nothing could be further from the truth. So my answer would be no.)

2) I really don't understand 'the gold chains are offensive' thing. I don't like polyester shirts but they are not as bad as slavery.
#23

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Accidental Racist

I don't like polyester shirts but they are not as bad as slavery.

Not even this one?

#24

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If that were cotton I'd totally wear that!

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