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#26

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Please explain how Rachel Maddow "misquoted" him- even Rush agrees he said it, just year earlier. How is it not "the kind of stuff he does say" when it is something he DOES say- DID say as a matter of fact.

You, Goth were specifically looking for a reason to make Maddow look bad. That's where your hatred comes in. You continually misquotes her in an attempt to make her look bad. You are way out of your league.


Updated On: 8/9/11 at 04:31 PM

#27

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It's not just that Limabugh said it. It's that he played the song, which has nothing to do with David Ehrenestein. Ehrenstein did write an article about it, but as far as I know, he's not the one that coined it.

The Magical Negro is an old old trope that goes by many names and is frequently rearing it's head. ("The Help", anyone?)

The wikipedia link below goes into detail, in case anyone has the crazy idea to learn something.

The song "Barack the Magic Negro" is what Rush is talking about in that clip (in the clips him saying "Grab the 'Magic Negro!" We're gonna play it again today" is pretty much a dead giveaway). It was written for his show by Paul Shanklin.

Here is the article the Ehrenstein wrote for the LA Times -

AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.

As might be expected, this figure is chiefly cinematic — embodied by such noted performers as Sidney Poitier, Morgan Freeman, Scatman Crothers, Michael Clarke Duncan, Will Smith and, most recently, Don Cheadle. And that's not to mention a certain basketball player whose very nickname is "Magic."

Poitier really poured on the "magic" in "Lilies of the Field" (for which he won a best actor Oscar) and "To Sir, With Love" (which, along with "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," made him a No. 1 box-office attraction). In these films, Poitier triumphs through yeoman service to his white benefactors. "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is particularly striking in this regard, as it posits miscegenation without evoking sex. (Talk about magic!)

The same can't quite be said of Freeman in "Driving Miss Daisy," "Seven" and the seemingly endless series of films in which he plays ersatz paterfamilias to a white woman bedeviled by a serial killer. But at least he survives, unlike Crothers in "The Shining," in which psychic premonitions inspire him to rescue a white family he barely knows and get killed for his trouble. This heart-tug trope is parodied in Gus Van Sant's "Elephant." The film's sole black student at a Columbine-like high school arrives in the midst of a slaughter, helps a girl escape and is immediately gunned down. See what helping the white man gets you?

And what does the white man get out of the bargain? That's a question asked by John Guare in "Six Degrees of Separation," his brilliant retelling of the true saga of David Hampton — a young, personable gay con man who in the 1980s passed himself off as the son of none other than the real Sidney Poitier. Though he started small, using the ruse to get into Studio 54, Hampton discovered that countless gullible, well-heeled New Yorkers, vulnerable to the Magic Negro myth, were only too eager to believe in his baroque fantasy. (One of the few who wasn't fooled was Andy Warhol, who was astonished his underlings believed Hampton's whoppers. Clearly Warhol had no need for the accouterment of interracial "goodwill.")

But the same can't be said of most white Americans, whose desire for a noble, healing Negro hasn't faded. That's where Obama comes in: as Poitier's "real" fake son.

The senator's famously stem-winding stump speeches have been drawing huge crowds to hear him talk of uniting rather than dividing. A praiseworthy goal. Consequently, even the mild criticisms thrown his way have been waved away, "magically." He used to smoke, but now he doesn't; he racked up a bunch of delinquent parking tickets, but he paid them all back with an apology. And hey, is looking good in a bathing suit a bad thing?

The only mud that momentarily stuck was criticism (white and black alike) concerning Obama's alleged "inauthenticty," as compared to such sterling examples of "genuine" blackness as Al Sharpton and Snoop Dogg. Speaking as an African American whose last name has led to his racial "credentials" being challenged — often several times a day — I know how pesky this sort of thing can be.

Obama's fame right now has little to do with his political record or what he's written in his two (count 'em) books, or even what he's actually said in those stem-winders. It's the way he's said it that counts the most. It's his manner, which, as presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden ham-fistedly reminded us, is "articulate." His tone is always genial, his voice warm and unthreatening, and he hasn't called his opponents names (despite being baited by the media).

Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.


Here are the lyrics to the song that Rush plays -

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.

Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

Refrain:
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.

(repeat Refrain)

Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean"
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!

But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in
'Cause... (then the singer - ostensibly as Al Sharpton - goes on a rant)

You can hear it here

http://youtu.be/H5JFeaJ5A4g

This is the man who wrote and recorded it

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Magic Negro - Wikipedia
#28

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>> He specifically speaks cryptically

ROFLMAO!!! Limbaugh is about as cryptic as a sledgehammer to a window.
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#29

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"What's interesting to me is that Maddow picked up the clip from the right-wing WorldNetDaily, who had labeled it as being from the day before.

So can I assume that "evil" applies to them as well?"

WND labeled it wrong, that was a mistake.

Maddow turning her apology into accusing someone of being racist is hateful.

See the difference?
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#30

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WND also posts comments calling for the "extermination" of gays.
#31

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WRONG! She apologized but went on and showed the viewers all the things Rush said throughout the week. So,according to Goth it's Rachel not Rush(the hatemonger who said all the crap) is the hateful one.

Goth, fast forward to the 2:40 mark. Just to be clear, are you ignoring the things Rush says in this clip? Is he being a nice guy in this montage? Name calling, attacking the first lady,etc. You are attacking Rachel but totally giving Rush a free pass? LOL! Please explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlyo3TRSdnA

'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently' -Robert Evans-

Updated On: 8/9/11 at 04:58 PM

#32

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No, because had they been "correct" (which they were, in a way), she would have been telling the truth. As it was, she retracted it.

When was the last time you *ever* heard either Limburger or Colter retract *anything*, let alone apologize?

And forgive me for saying this, but I'm starting to think you post this stuff just to create a little tempest on the boards. You know your position is woefully indefencible, and yet you persist with these (pardon my saying it) inane follow-ups that only dig you in deeper. So, is this a call for attention or a desperate cry for help? Just asking, you understand.
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#33

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"WND labeled it wrong, that was a mistake. Maddow turning her apology into accusing someone of being racist is hateful. See the difference?"

Yes, I do. You're an apologist for a right-wing outlet.

How on earth do you know that they made a mistake and she did it deliberately?

And have they apologized, by the way?
#34

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As bizarre as it may sound, my brother and his wife are Tea Partiers and even THEY can no longer defend Limbaugh, Coulter, Bachmann or Palin. And my brother was Limbaugh's biggest fan in the 90s.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#35

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Look - Goth has made pretzles for everyone!

Share with the entire class!
#36

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Limbaugh is brilliant in his way: He has set up multiple lines of defense so that NOTHING he says is outrageous any more- but still generates headlines (and listeners). When he calls the president a "jackass" or when he goes on a tirade that Democrats attempted to purposely lower the US's S&P rating or calls a congressmen a communist, if anyone dares to object, he can fall back on one of his myriad "explanations": You have to listen to the whole show to "get it." He was taken "Out of context." And, in this case "That was a long time ago." If the hubbub gets REALLY loud, like when he called 13 year old Chelsea Clinton a "Dog," then you blame someone else for making a mistake and move on. Note:You don't apologize, you just move on.

I remember when Rush Limbaugh first debuted in my market- It was 1989 on WLS Chicago- a huge legendary top 40 AM station that went talk. He was so little known in Chicago that most listeners thought he was just another local guy. He was a former rock DJ who thought there was money to be made in right wing talk. In fact, he'd never even voted, he cared so little about politics.

He wanted to be listened to. I remember the stunt that got him on the news in Chicago- he did one of his monologues condemning women who farted in public. How disgusting it was. How inappropriate. How hard it was to share a bus, a train, a CAR with a woman who just kept farting in public.

The phone lines LIT UP! SO many people calling in to argue with him- and he shrugged it off. "It might not bother you but it makes me sick." He made the news the next day- even other DJs talked about it- Outrageous, huh?

Of course he had an explanation: He never said ANYTHING like that! And he never would! That is NOT fit subject for conversation, much less a radio show! He was railing against FARDING in public- an archaic old English word that means to apply makeup. THAT is what disgusted him- watching a woman apply makeup in public!

And that is the sort of thing that creates a buzz. People called in for weeks to chortle about that. Hee hee that Rush! He sure got 'em!

Of course, a few years later he was busy reporting that Hilary Clinton was a lesbian who was also passionately involved with her lover Vince Foster, whom she murdered. It makes no difference to Rush- as long as it stirs people up!

You have to hand it to him. People like Goth eat it up.
#38

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WND also posts comments calling for the "extermination" of gays.


The cosmic irony of this is that if all the gays were exterminated the number of closet cases readers of WND would decrease by at least half.


....but the world goes 'round

Updated On: 8/10/11 at 02:24 PM

#39

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And then we'd NEVER find out what Sondheim thought of the new Porgy and Bess.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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