Anyone Else See Farenheit?- Page 2

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 12:15am

My fav quote from reading up on the chatter about the film:

"Mr. Moore has every right to produce and show movies that express his very radical views. He's outside of the mainstream. ... This is a film that doesn't require us to actually view it to know it's filled with factual inaccuracies."

---White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett

Well, I'd say Moore is breaking into the mainstream. I also laugh at the notion that one does not need to see a film to know what it actually says.

[Sunfish]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 12:19am

>>>Interesting how there could probably be a sequel made by the time Dubya leaves office in 2005.<<<<

That's because it just keeps getting worse and worse.

[Sunfish]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 12:25am

Half of us are.....

Or rather, one half of those who voted in the last election are. That was less that one half of registered voters, who are about one half of those eligible to vote. So....about 25% are that dumb, but they are the RIGHT 25%....

[DAME]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 12:44am

I just came from seeing the movie. I didn't think it was possible for me to hate Bush more. What a A*s H**e!

[Matt_G]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 12:46am

But Dame, didn't you adore the last 30 seconds?

[DAME]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 12:49am

Hysterical.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 1:21am

TEXAS:
How'd the film go over in the heart of Bush country? One viewer writes in:
Mr. Moore:
I'm sorry I have no pictures for you, but I felt it necessary to deliver some good news. I live in Collin County, Texas, which is the Plano/North Dallas area. Collin County was once dubbed "possibly the most Republican county in the country" by The Dallas Morning News. This morning I attended the first screening of Fahrenheit at the Angelika Theatre in Plano and although I arrived early, the showing was almost sold out. The movie truly was a roller coaster of emotions moving so quickly on several occasions from humorous Mr. Bush moments, to reactions of people about 9/11 or images of injured Iraqis, and American soldiers. By the end of the movie you received a standing ovation for your film.

Also, I wanted to thank you for making your film not only for the message and entertainment, but for restoring my hope in the future of this nation. Prior to this movie, although I would like to see a Democrat in the White House in January, I felt it was nothing more than a lovely dream. Now, judging by the reaction your film received in Bush Country, Texas, I can only imagine what it did in states not quite as heavily leaning to the Right. Fahrenheit 9/11 restored my faith in the possibility of avoiding another four years of "Dubya"!
Signed, D.C.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 1:30am

Bravo

[Mattio98]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 2:15am

I just got back from the film and it was UNBELIEVABLE. I was on the edge of my seat for every second. And it was perfectly done too. I think a lot of people expect this movie to be 2 hours of Bush bashing. Instead, Moore gives you the videos, pictures, and evidence and proceeds to let the viewers draw the obvious conclusions. I, too, didn't think that I could ever hate Bush more but that was disproved by this film. And incredible show of bravery, talent, and moviemaking. BRAVO MICHAEL MOORE!!

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 1:55pm

I can't wait to see da flick! Soooooooo creepy how every right-wing outfit is trying to surpress it. Why can't the liberals get so uniformly united over Ann Coulter & Co.?

[Blonde]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 2:21pm

hmmm...rethinking....

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 4:12pm

READ THIS!!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/27/box.office.reut/index.html

My>http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/27/box.office.reut/index.html>http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/27/box.office.reut/index.html

My favorite parts:

"a relatively modest 868 theaters two days later. (In contrast, most of the other movies in the top five were playing in more than 2,500 theaters each."

"the film's total stands at $21.96 million. Moore's previous movie, "Bowling for Columbine," grossed about $21.5 million during its nine-month run"

"the film played strongly in both Democrat and Republican states, even drawing sell-out crowds in Republican strongholds like Nassau County, New York and Fayetteville, North Carolina, home of Fort Bragg."

[Sunfish]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 6:16pm

>>>It asks questions. Is it liberally biased? Oh yeah--it's the antidote to Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and their fellow hard nosed commentators who are just as ballsy and opinionated as someone like Michael Moore. <<<

Except, jrb-actor, Michael Moore can actually back up his opinions with hard data! Caterwauling one's opinion over and over mean nothing, but when you've got the documents and film to prove it, it raises the stakes a bit.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 6:36pm

Documents? Facts? PROOF?

What are those things??

[Sunfish]

Posted: 6/27/04 at 7:13pm

I know...it's so much easier...and probably fun...to just make it up. And if you repeat it, with embellishments, it day after day on your talk radio show, the knuckleheads listening to it will take it as fact...true...well...they believe it, no questions asked.

[Ruffian]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 11:23am

OK...I saw it this weekend....whoever posted they didnt need anymore reasons to NOT vote for Bush is very correct on that...still.....can you believe how stupid & dim & plain Evil this Cowboy really is. He is all for himself, or rather, all for the Big Bucks Folk. "I call you...my Base."

Right

Anyways the very sound of Cheney's voice is scary

Moore of course cannot back up all his claims. It wasn't right of him to use the clip of the second Congressman he chased about getting family members to sign up for the War. That Dude is speaking out about how his REAL reply didnt make the cut. Turns out he has a few nephews in the Service. But of course, that would take away from the movie. Moore had plenty to film concerning Bush...he didnt need to selectively make choices

The only thing I actually like about Bush is that he likes dogs.

I dont know which one seems creepier to me...Dubya, Cheney...Condee....Rummy

I guess I will say Cheney, since I think he is really running the show

Dubya sure likes his vacations, but I guess we all knew that anyway

Go see the Movie. You can laugh, and then cry

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 12:33pm

"Besides that, there are images of dead children, children with limbs ripped off, charred boddies hanging in the streets, beheadings and various other horrific things from this war that Fox News doesn't want you to see."

I don't want to see those horrific things either.

[ckeaton]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 12:41pm

Ya know... I have never been a fan of Moore. In fact, he grates at me unlike any other celebrity I have ever known. However, I have to admit that his Farenheit tour stop at The Today Show of all places made him look somewhat logical.

A careeer in political debate is not in the cards though. I think he realizes that he has to continue on the guerilla filmmaking approach. Until now, there were very few people who wanted to listen to him for more than 15-30 seconds blurbs at a time.

What do you think is on the top of his head that he tries to hide with those God-awful hats?

[DAME]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 12:51pm

Farenheit is a great peice of film making no matter what Moore looks like or what he wears under his hat.

Updated On: 6/28/04 at 12:51 PM

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 12:53pm

Yes, there's one guy who could definitely use the services of a stylist. I believe he can afford one now.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 9:19pm

I saw it Friday afternoon, right before I saw "The Frogs" (the two make for a great double feature -- some of Nathan's lines that night sounded as if they were taken almost word-for-word from the film -- Go Nathan!). A very effective piece of filmmaking. Even if you're not a news junkie like myself (I probably spend more time reading and discussing politics in a given day than I do theatre, so I had seen much of the footage Moore used before), the film does a nice job of presenting the myriad of facts about the corruption and lies of this administration and then connecting all the dots so that the overall picture is clear. It's also quite emotionally affecting, showing the pain and loss of the victims' families on both sides of this war. Whatever one's political persuasion, the film is a must-see in order to fully comprehend much of what has happened in and to this country in the last several years. And to those concerned about some of the graphic imagery of war shown in the film, it's rather brief an nonexploitative (probably less than two minutes out of the two hours). Go see this film -- it's a deeply effecting and eye-opening experience.

[newyorkuniq]

Posted: 6/28/04 at 11:28pm

I loved this film. Really disturbing facts . Go see it everyone

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 6/29/04 at 3:01am

Went to “choir practice” Saturday.

Say what you want about Michael Moore, he has a way with editing, and a wicked sense of humor, and knows how to rivet an audience.

Yes, it is slanted, yes, it is manipulative but it is also a very strong argument against the current war and administration. Let’s put that aside, because that is all anyone is talking about.

What I found interesting about Fahrenheit 9/11 was the structure of the story telling and how he managed to anger me, make me laugh, shake my head in bewilderment and eventually move me to tears.

Starting with the scenes of the Cabinet readying them selves for the camera, “Let’s put on our TV faces, we’ve got to look pretty or they won’t believe us.”

THE BIG PICTURE…The White House, the Saudis the Billions of dollars… that is what it is all about, Moore seems to be saying. “At any cost.”

THE AGENDA…start a war, scare the people, keep them confused, muddy up the waters and we can do anything we want.

THE TOOLS…we then are shown the realities of the front lines: the innocent victims, the disgruntled soldiers, and the destroyed villages. This is powerful.

Then Moore makes his move. He had introduced us to the Flint woman who was so proud of her country and her children in the military. She put her flag out every day with the greatest respect, taught her children that the government would supply them with the great life she could not afford to give them, encouraging them to enlist. When this woman’s son is killed in Iraq, Moore takes us into America's living room, the soul of this woman and her family and we feel their pain. The scene of her sobbing in front of the White House brings the film full circle. Here is where it all started and here is where it ends. He zooms from the big picture right down into the heart of the American people to say, “Was this War worth it?”

Slanted propaganda? Perhaps. Brilliant filmmaking? Absolutely.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/29/04 at 3:28am

Oh, it's definitely propaganda. It's an expose. It's getting another side of the picture out there. It presents deadly facts.

And, it is brilliant film making. :)

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/29/04 at 4:30am

wow--Bill O'Reilly. A man who is absolutely no better or worse than Michael Moore. Except, perhaps, that Michael Moore actually documents his facts.

Mr. O'Reilly is currently on a rampage on his TV show to paint any dissenters and Moore as being unpatriotic. As merely hating America.

I found Moore's film to be highly patriotic. I didn't see disgust for America. I saw disgust for Bush and his administration.

I guess it isn't possible for O'Reilly to see (or maybe just to say on TV) that Moore made this film because he wants better for America. I can assume that Moore wants an America that is not guilty of the crimes it has committed in recent years. That isn't unpatriotic. It's tough love. We can do better than this. We should aspire to be better than this.