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#4

re: Apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to America.

Christianity and religion have nothing to do with it. These people have the right to protest in the same way everyone else does. In addition, this is not new. Billy Graham came out very strongly against Jesus Christ Superstar when it was first produced years ago.

If people were protesting a play about war in Iraq, this thread wouldn't even exist. Please look at your own level of tolerance before you go accusing other people.
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#6

re: Apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to America.

Unfortunately not just idiotic Christians....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4112105.stm

This was much more shocking and frankly a very depressing day for British theatre.


(and if we are to discuss tolerance how many wars has theatre begun and how many have been based upon religion?)
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#10

re: Apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to America.

Goth - raising a voice of dissent is one thing, calling for punitive restriction is another. And how on Earth does Christianity and religion "have nothing to do with it" when the foundation of their plan lies in calling on police "to prosecute a theater company for blasphemy"?

And as for my own level of tolerance, I have made it quite clear in this forum that even though I don't believe in any religion myself, I have no issue with those who do - but I DO have a most SERIOUS issue with those who want to use their religion to legislate morality.
#11

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

hey, c'mon, now this is progress. if it was a play about a gay drunken muhammed, they'd just blow up the theatre, issues fatwas calling for the death of everyone involved and be done with it. i think it's commendable that these citizens recognize the rule of law and are trying to subvert it with peaceful protest rather than violence.

i think it's a futile and pointless protest myself, but hey, different strokes for different folks. all it will succeed in doing is raising awareness about the show which prior to their vocalizing probably would have opened and closed in relative obscurity. ahhh, them crazy christians, the best word of mouth blasphemy can buy!
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#12

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

Papa, on one hand I want to protest the broad brush with which you're painting the muslims; on the other hand some lunatics did do this when Salman Rushdie published his novel. But those people do not represent all muslims just as this group don't represent all Christians. I've decided not to be part of an organized religion myself, so I'll just reiterate my first point: Sure, these people use religion as an excuse, but the common attribute is bigotry.

Updated On: 12/21/04 at 09:56 AM

#13

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

nah, i'm painting fanatics. ours protest, theirs behead. it's progress. re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

for the most part christians and muslims and jews and hindus and heck most all religions are peaceful at this point in their evolution. most all have their irratiional elements, though. i'm just pointing out that christians fanatics at this point in time are generally more peaceful about showing their anger towards perceived slights to their religion than are some other religions' fanatics.
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pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#15

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

If people were protesting a play about war in Iraq, this thread wouldn't even exist. Please look at your own level of tolerance before you go accusing other people.

Holy crap. For once, I agree with part of one of your posts, Goth. Must be all that holiday spirit in the air.

This isn't really true of the posters I know on this thread, but a lot of people here (and people on the left in general) could learn a little respect and tolerance for Christianity and religion in general. If you want respect, it has to go both ways.
#16

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

It's interesting that there is no mention of the production of Corpus Christi that was NOT protested at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in 1999. At that time, the production was actually well-received in the Scottish city.
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#19

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

Actually there were protests at the Edinburgh Festival production of Corpus Christi.

They did however have very well designed protest placards and seem to be held by rather dis-interested students which did raise suspicions.

When the production subsequently transferred to London there was more protests and some fools praying for my soul as I entered the theatre.

Respect for religion...

Once again I'll ask how many wars has the theatre started and how many deaths does religion have on it's supposed conscience.

I'm sick of tolerating the intolerant.
"I tend to think if god wanted us to believe in him, he'd exist" Linda Smith
#20

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

How strange. I had a friend who was with the production in Edinburgh and said they didn't have any problems. When I was there, I didn't remember anything going on.
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#21

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

Well there you go again. You're conflating religion with intolerance, which is complete bull****.

On my most religious days, I'm the world's least observant Jew. And trust me, coming from Israel, I know plenty about religious intolerance. But having faith doesn't magically turn you into some kind of rabid bigot. To assume otherwise is a form of bigotry in itself.

Updated On: 12/21/04 at 12:40 PM

#23

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

No, I meant the "not murdering people" part. But I still contend you're voer-generalizing when you just say "Christians." They're bigots who happen to be Christian. Go to Israel and the bigots busy legislating will be Jewish. Go to other countries and they'll be Hindu or Muslim. Or even secularist. Christianity isn't a religion that lends itself to bigotry in some special way any more than Islam is a religion that promotes violence in some exceptional way.

Updated On: 12/21/04 at 12:49 PM

#24

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

To top it all, national critics on opening night had to battle through an 80-strong banner-waving demonstration led by Pastor Jack Glass, a real-life fire and brimstone preacher from Glasgow, wearing a crown of thorns and denouncing the company at the top of his lungs for "crucifying" his Lord for a second time.

From http://www.birdsandbees.co.uk/kwpr/prexample.shtml about the first nightof corpus Christi in Edinburgh.
"I tend to think if god wanted us to believe in him, he'd exist" Linda Smith
#25

re: apparently, the hate mongering isn't restricted to america.

the bigoted legislation against gay marriage, the federal defense of marriage act was signed into law by the bigot in chief at the time, a democrat, bubba c.
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