#26
Posted: 11/9/04 at 8:38pm
unfortunately it goes over in the heartland... these views are very popular here in OK . . . aargh!
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#27
Posted: 11/9/04 at 9:35pm
Wow, thanks BorstalBoy!
After reading that, I took your advice and emailed the White House and told them how pleased I was that someone with morals was acting.
After that, I emailed everyone in my address book and told them the good news and asked them to email the WH with their praise also. I know they will. Thanks again!
After reading that, I took your advice and emailed the White House and told them how pleased I was that someone with morals was acting.
After that, I emailed everyone in my address book and told them the good news and asked them to email the WH with their praise also. I know they will. Thanks again!
#28
Posted: 11/9/04 at 10:24pm
True...I admire your activism... however,morality is so subjective . . . perhaps someday someone will use their views and their concept of morality to infringe on your rights...perhaps telling you the proper way to worship, the proper way to behave in your marriage, what to watch on television, etc...remember there is always someone who is more conservative than you, someone who believes that the way you live your life is wrong. Would you want them to have that contol over you?
#29
Posted: 11/9/04 at 11:31pm
Two things.
1) Westopher, you're wrong. RU-486 IS, in fact, the so-called abortion pill--it's the abortifacient mifepristone which causes an early first-term abortion.
NOT to be confused with the morning-after pill (known in the US as "Plan B", frequently and UNLAWFULLY denied to women with prescriptions by morally sanctimonious pharmacists) which is actually just a high dosage of oral contraceptives ("the pill".)
The former actually causes an abortion by inducing a miscarriage. The latter prevents implantation of any egg that may have been fertilized.
Here's something to put in perspective how backwards--(in my opinion--we *were* founded for freedom from religious persecution, and separation of church and state, after all--the founding fathers were DEISTS!!)--our country has become in terms of the FDA being dragged down by politics and the religious right. I had to write a paper in high school--while Bush's DADDY was in office--debating the pros and cons of RU-486, discuss whether it should be legal, and WHY we were the last in the western world to approve what had been found to be a safe and far-less invasive alternative for those who are put in the awful position to exercise their constitutional right to privacy and CHOICE.
**And for the record, if our administration were not so virulantly against proper sex-education and not so slavishly devoted to the abstinence-based malarkey which has just been put into Texas textbooks, there would be FEWER abortions!! Those who are pro-life should really be ardently pro-contraception if they had their facts straight and faced reality. I understand moral objections to abortion, but wouldn't it be better for women to have more options to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place??
...And 2) Dr. Hager.
This e-chain has been making the rounds for two years. It's outdated at best and misleading at worst. Yeah, the guy's a neanderthal. But due to the opposition his nomination caused TWO YEARS ago, he was not named the chair of this committee. He is still, sadly, on the committee, but a female Stanford doctor was named the chair instead. So it still sucks, but this is old news....and I'm afraid the worst may be yet to come.
Ok. I got all riled up. I hate that our nation is divided by theocrats and spin-meisters, but even MORE, I hate mis-information. (Don't even get my started on the misnomered NON-EXISTANT medical procedure called "partial-birth..." ah, forget it.) You can look it up--visit NOW or NARAL or Planned Parenthood online to get the real story.
And those of you in a position to accidentally procreate, you best keep your eyes on the Supreme Court, and your pens at the ready to write your representative...prepare for Filibuster, folks.
1) Westopher, you're wrong. RU-486 IS, in fact, the so-called abortion pill--it's the abortifacient mifepristone which causes an early first-term abortion.
NOT to be confused with the morning-after pill (known in the US as "Plan B", frequently and UNLAWFULLY denied to women with prescriptions by morally sanctimonious pharmacists) which is actually just a high dosage of oral contraceptives ("the pill".)
The former actually causes an abortion by inducing a miscarriage. The latter prevents implantation of any egg that may have been fertilized.
Here's something to put in perspective how backwards--(in my opinion--we *were* founded for freedom from religious persecution, and separation of church and state, after all--the founding fathers were DEISTS!!)--our country has become in terms of the FDA being dragged down by politics and the religious right. I had to write a paper in high school--while Bush's DADDY was in office--debating the pros and cons of RU-486, discuss whether it should be legal, and WHY we were the last in the western world to approve what had been found to be a safe and far-less invasive alternative for those who are put in the awful position to exercise their constitutional right to privacy and CHOICE.
**And for the record, if our administration were not so virulantly against proper sex-education and not so slavishly devoted to the abstinence-based malarkey which has just been put into Texas textbooks, there would be FEWER abortions!! Those who are pro-life should really be ardently pro-contraception if they had their facts straight and faced reality. I understand moral objections to abortion, but wouldn't it be better for women to have more options to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place??
...And 2) Dr. Hager.
This e-chain has been making the rounds for two years. It's outdated at best and misleading at worst. Yeah, the guy's a neanderthal. But due to the opposition his nomination caused TWO YEARS ago, he was not named the chair of this committee. He is still, sadly, on the committee, but a female Stanford doctor was named the chair instead. So it still sucks, but this is old news....and I'm afraid the worst may be yet to come.
Ok. I got all riled up. I hate that our nation is divided by theocrats and spin-meisters, but even MORE, I hate mis-information. (Don't even get my started on the misnomered NON-EXISTANT medical procedure called "partial-birth..." ah, forget it.) You can look it up--visit NOW or NARAL or Planned Parenthood online to get the real story.
And those of you in a position to accidentally procreate, you best keep your eyes on the Supreme Court, and your pens at the ready to write your representative...prepare for Filibuster, folks.
Updated On: 11/9/04 at 11:31 PM
#30
Posted: 11/9/04 at 11:38pm
Touche, and great post over all.
#31
Posted: 11/9/04 at 11:49pm
Thanks...
I get a little passionate about those things which affect my uterus and those of the women I love
(eta, I dig the equal opportunity holiday kitty and duckies....what, no Ramadan puppy?!)
I get a little passionate about those things which affect my uterus and those of the women I love
(eta, I dig the equal opportunity holiday kitty and duckies....what, no Ramadan puppy?!)
Updated On: 11/10/04 at 11:49 PM
#32
Posted: 11/10/04 at 12:37am
I only recognise real holidays
#33
Posted: 11/10/04 at 12:45am
ah, no you di'int........
(I know you're joking but....All Muslims are not radical jihadists just as all Christians are not abortionist-executing hate-spewers!)
(I know you're joking but....All Muslims are not radical jihadists just as all Christians are not abortionist-executing hate-spewers!)
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