Bush vs. Kerry ~ Master Debator 10/08! Whoot! — Page 8

Not when you're wrong.

Mimi -
#1 - we didn't go to war b/c iraq might attack us - the had NO wmd - the NEVER threatened us - we went over oil - you are naive to think otherwise! Iraq was NOT a direct immediate threat!
#2 - you are living in blissful ignorance - take the # of jobs we lost over 4 years - subtract the jobs added this year - we STILL lost more jobs than EVER! you're crazy if you can't see that! glad to see you realize that 9/11 hurt our country - too bad there was warning and we could have prevented it! somehow i don't think its pesimistic to say so!
I understand you want to jusify your beliefs but you aren't using the facts to do so. You're living in a dream world. Somehow I think all the people who lost their jobs, or the children at war wouldn't agree with you. Maybe you're in that 1% tax bracket. That would explain things.

Updated On: 10/8/04 at 11:04 PM

the memo about 9/11 came out in aug of 01 - clinton wasn't in office then

Mimi,

What would Bush have to say or do to make you think he should not run the country?

I want to know what is important to you...because at this point, all I hear is that you like NOT being a democrat, not BEING a Republican.

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Yeah, Bush really opened a can of good ol' Texan whoopass when it came to speaking skills.

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Updated On: 10/8/04 at 11:11 PM

Tiff you're right too! I was just speaking of the aug memo in my "Mimi rant"! It just frustrates me that people use 9/11 as a reason for supporting Bush and the war on Iraq, when it could have been prevented. Maybe living across the street from ground zero makes you super-sensitive to the issue. I just can't let go that there are lives that were lost unnecsarily. And while I blame Osama I can't excuse Bush right now.

Wow- this thread is expanding by the second so please disregard if this is a duplicate. To preface my earlier post (I've calmed down, but still maintain my fervor), I am extremely passionate about stem cell research. I am exhausted so if anyone recalls the details, please add them...

I believe the question was since embryonic stem cells have yet to cure anyone, why isn't there more focus on adult stem cell research. [I'm a biomedical engineer and spent much time researching this topic. The reason why embryonic stem cell research has yet to cure diseases is because Bush only allowed a very limited number of cell lines (this is what they are called... think of it as if there were 20 cell lines, then each of those could be replicated, but they will all possess the same qualities as the respective parent) and almost all of these lines are from MICE! Therefore there is NO possible way that these cells would be viable in humans. Private stem cell research is feasible and continues, but the lack of governmental funding does not permit the desperately needed competition to drive this research).

Anyway, [sleepily stepping off of my soapbox], Bush answered his question stating that he had the certain number of lines and that was all that was sponsored by Gov't funding. Kerry got up and discussed how the specific number of lines (he gave a number.. it sounded right- I used to know it, but again, I'm tired) were from mice and were not sufficient to yield cures for diseases in humans.

Updated On: 10/8/04 at 11:27 PM

Anyone watching Bill Mahr. i am laughing my ass off.

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Dave's top ten list...crackin my sh&$ up.

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Damn... I forgot he was on. Guess I'll have to catch the encore tomorrow night.

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I'm not a pessimist, Princess. A pessimist believes not only that things are bad, but that they'll never get better. I adore this country, and I think it's bursting with potential to get better. Which is why I'm so damn frustrated watching the President fumble nearly every opportunity he gets to improve our nation.

Acknowledging the the past four years have been disastrous isn't being pessimistic, it's being pragmatic.