Bush vs. Kerry ~ Master Debator 10/08! Whoot! — Page 9

Do you mean the woman who asked Kerry? Why did it disturb you? I thought Kerry answered that question fantastically.

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Okay. This is a quiet little admission from someone who's been sitting around undecided in a fairly pro-Bush household. I've been won over to Kerry. Of course, my 18th birthday isn't until June, so I can't vote, but it still counts as something for me. Keep it quiet, though! Not that I'd be disowned for it or anything. Actually, seriously, my parents are all for their children having their own opinions, it's just harder to work it in with politics having a father so much more versed and up-to-date on current affairs. ^_^;

dude taryn- my mom, dad, maternal grandparents, paternal grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins are all pro-bush. it's *sad*. i'm not aloud to talk about my political beliefs with my mom. i have one sister that doesn't like bush but won't be voting (she's in france anyway) and one that's "undecided" but gets frequent emails and talking's too from me anyone else here have relitives with relitively no brain?
(i think my dad is only voting for him because he's rich, and my mom is because she's always voted republican, and by golly she always will!)

I know you touched on it
but

from Kerry's site

BUSH VS. REALITY - Timber
KERRY: The President got $84 from a timber company that he owns that he's counted as a small business…

BUSH: I own a timber company? That's news to me.

REALITY:

“President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)” [Factcheck.org; 9/23/04]

ABC: Peter Jennings, 10.50: Mr. Bush looked up and said ‘I own a timber company? And we all sort of looked at one another and said who was right? Well it turns out Senator Kerry was right.

NBC 10:50-11:00, Brian Williams: Joke about timber – President once owned a small share of the timber business – Bush according to FactCheck.org reported $84 of business, that would have qualified him as a small business owner.

St. Louis Post Dispatch 9:15: At one point, Kerry said Bush's timber company would benefit from economic proposals, and Bush countered: "I own a timber company? That's news to me."



factcheck.com
President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)
(Oct 9; CORRECTION: What we originally reported as a "timber-growing" enterprise is actually described on Bush's tax return as an "oil and gas production" concern, the Lone Star Trust. We were confused because The Lone Star Trust currently owns 50% of another company, "LSTF, LLC", described on Bush’s 2003 financial disclosure forms as a limited-liability company organized "for the purpose of the production of trees for commercial sales." So, Bush does own part interest in a tree-growing company, but the $84 came from an oil and gas company and we should have reported it as such.)

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