Bye Bye Birdie comes back to the silver screen — Page 2
#27
Posted: 1/6/09 at 1:03pm
Oh then Snoop Dogg would have to play Albert.
#28
Posted: 1/6/09 at 1:15pm
Remember that genius Daily Show spoof of The Telephone Hour?
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/the_talking_heads/jon_stewart_is_not_on_the_fence_23723.asp
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/the_talking_heads/jon_stewart_is_not_on_the_fence_23723.asp
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#29
Posted: 1/6/09 at 1:16pm
I'm pretty sure they'd have to change his name to Lemonjello or SH*Thead (pronounced SH*Theed, of course).
#30
Posted: 1/6/09 at 1:20pm
I've seen the brilliant original Broadway version, the 1963 film version, the god-awful made-for-television version, the misguided Tommy Tune version, and countless community and high school theater versions, and, even with its flaws, nothing touches the 1963 theatrical film version. I have no reason to believe another remake will come close. Beside the fact that nobody today seems capable of adequately filming musical numbers, no one can match the tremendous orchestrations by Johnny Green; and, nobody today can equal Onna White's perfect choreography. N O B O D Y!
#31
Posted: 1/6/09 at 1:42pm
I doubt the hip hop idea will still happen. Playbill.com says this
A movie remake of the popular 1960 Broadway musical (by librettist Michael Stewart, composer Charles Strouse and lyricist Lee Adams) has been gestating for several years, with some reports indicating that the Elvis-era setting might be updated to the hip-hop period. No official announcement has been made about a screenwriter or a possible update. (Given the success of the brightly colored 1960s-period "Hairspray" on film, the producer may now feel emboldened to stick to the original.)
I would think their assumption is correct.
A movie remake of the popular 1960 Broadway musical (by librettist Michael Stewart, composer Charles Strouse and lyricist Lee Adams) has been gestating for several years, with some reports indicating that the Elvis-era setting might be updated to the hip-hop period. No official announcement has been made about a screenwriter or a possible update. (Given the success of the brightly colored 1960s-period "Hairspray" on film, the producer may now feel emboldened to stick to the original.)
I would think their assumption is correct.
#32
Posted: 1/6/09 at 2:02pm
Compared to the stage play, the movie version of Hairspray was far from "brightly colored".
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#33
Posted: 1/6/09 at 2:04pm
Please please PLEASE don't make this a hip hop version, otherwise I'm all for a remake.
#34
Posted: 1/6/09 at 3:06pm
As long as there are no turtles on speed, I'm all for a remake!
#35
Posted: 1/6/09 at 3:10pm
We are doomed either way !!! If it is not a hip-hop version, my guess is that it will be an original remake with....Hello Zac Efron !!!! LOL
#36
Posted: 1/6/09 at 3:28pm
If they do a remake, they must include Mae singing "A Mother Doesn't Matter".
I wish that the tv version had played around more with that song.
I can see Albert taking a shower, and Mae pops her head into the shower and sings "Who picked your dirty socks up off the floor? You coughed and who was there?"
Then Albert's at a meeting and Mae comes in "With bunions on my feet, I trudged through snow and sleet, To bring your lic'rice from the corner store"
Then Albert's eating at a restaurant, the waitress comes up and it's Mae singing "Who fed you chicken soup, when you had the croup?"
I wish that the tv version had played around more with that song.
I can see Albert taking a shower, and Mae pops her head into the shower and sings "Who picked your dirty socks up off the floor? You coughed and who was there?"
Then Albert's at a meeting and Mae comes in "With bunions on my feet, I trudged through snow and sleet, To bring your lic'rice from the corner store"
Then Albert's eating at a restaurant, the waitress comes up and it's Mae singing "Who fed you chicken soup, when you had the croup?"
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#37
Posted: 1/6/09 at 6:05pm
Family Guy also did a Telephone Hour spoof that never made it to air, only DVD, because they said retarded too many times.
http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/hes-retarded/12184237/
http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/hes-retarded/12184237/
#38
Posted: 1/7/09 at 2:13pm
Thanks for the link to the Daily Show thing. I found this one as well, which shows a video of it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/the-emdaily-showem-sings_n_127434.html
Hilarity! "Only in reality the choreography was even gayer!"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/the-emdaily-showem-sings_n_127434.html
Hilarity! "Only in reality the choreography was even gayer!"
#39
Posted: 1/7/09 at 2:37pm
This could be an epic fail, but in the right hands... it could work. It'd just change any and everything about the original musical that renaming it Bye Bye Birdie would be pointless. Why not just make an original hip hop musical and quit trying to "update" everything? Wasn't FAME enough for you people?
That being said, I am a fan of hip hop musicals and I'm excited for ITH only cause Lin is gonna be in it.
That being said, I am a fan of hip hop musicals and I'm excited for ITH only cause Lin is gonna be in it.
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#40
Posted: 1/7/09 at 4:16pm
I'm all for any movie musical being made, but unless this is is radically different from either of the other two versions, I see no reason for this...
If it were as faithful as the television movie, but brilliantly directed, choreographed and filmed (Honestly Sincere in the 1963 film is one of the greatest musical numbers ever captured on film), I would love it. But I think I'd rather see Bring Back Birdie than have the original updated to hip-hop. Bye Bye Birdie is one of the few musical comedies that is about as perfect as any musical could hope to achieve. If they were smart, they would get Cheyenne for Birdie.
If it were as faithful as the television movie, but brilliantly directed, choreographed and filmed (Honestly Sincere in the 1963 film is one of the greatest musical numbers ever captured on film), I would love it. But I think I'd rather see Bring Back Birdie than have the original updated to hip-hop. Bye Bye Birdie is one of the few musical comedies that is about as perfect as any musical could hope to achieve. If they were smart, they would get Cheyenne for Birdie.
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#41
Posted: 1/7/09 at 5:33pm
I think the 1963 movie is pretty awful. The humor is lost or soggy. Janet Leigh is embarrassingly miscast, even though she does her best. Ann Margaret is great, but is way too "movie star" for Kim. And comes off as too old (or more likely too sophisticated) for the part, despite the fact that she sizzles in it.
Dick Van Dyke is merely "okay" in the movie, and since it made him a Tony-winning star on stage, I'm pretty sure something got lost in the translation to film.
I can barely watch it these days, except for a few isolated numbers. It just leaves me cold.
I actually preferred the TV version, which at least had some spirited momentum to it. Despite having entirely different flaws of its own.
Dick Van Dyke is merely "okay" in the movie, and since it made him a Tony-winning star on stage, I'm pretty sure something got lost in the translation to film.
I can barely watch it these days, except for a few isolated numbers. It just leaves me cold.
I actually preferred the TV version, which at least had some spirited momentum to it. Despite having entirely different flaws of its own.
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#42
Posted: 1/7/09 at 5:52pm
besty - I pretty much echo most of your thoughts on the film. I enjoy it for what it is, but I agree that some of the casting was a bit awkward and the direction is spotty. It felt like everyone was kept on a pretty short leash with the exceptions of Ann Margret and Paul Lynde. Ann Margret is hot, but from the get-go, she comes across as quite the sex-kitten which really leaves her nowhere to go. But overall, the musical numbers capture the spirit and energy of the show beautifully.
I prefer the TV version mostly for the book scenes. The musical numbers, while sounding fabulous, are visual duds. Ann Reinking should be ashamed for taking any credit for all that drivel referred to as "choreography".
I prefer the TV version mostly for the book scenes. The musical numbers, while sounding fabulous, are visual duds. Ann Reinking should be ashamed for taking any credit for all that drivel referred to as "choreography".
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#43
Posted: 1/7/09 at 7:13pm
I liked both the movie and the tv version.
I can totally see where you are going with the Ann-Margaret comments, but she was so freaking hot in that movie. And I'm a straight girl. But damn...........
I can totally see where you are going with the Ann-Margaret comments, but she was so freaking hot in that movie. And I'm a straight girl. But damn...........
KFTC!!!!!
#44
Posted: 1/7/09 at 7:19pm
Well, here's what I had to say about that lousy TV thing, in 2000 on IMDB:
Hey, let's take the fun out of Bye Bye Birdie!, 10 October 2000
Author: johnm_001 from USA
This film should be filed in the why bother cabinet. Yes, you could say that it sticks closer to the Broadway version of the show, and you would be right. However, the Hollywood version of this Broadway show was always a lot more fun, with incredibly impressive musical numbers. This version, with alleged choreography by Ann Reinking, is just a big bore. The cast is generally not right for their roles, either. Jason Alexander is in fine voice, but he just isn't Albert, Chynna Phillips (looking more and more like Papa John, everyday), is too old. So was Ann-Margret in the 1963 version; but at least she had the energetic appeal of a 16 year old. Phillips comes off like she has iron poor blood. Tyne Daly, is too loud and annoying, to give Mae Peterson any real laughs or charm (see Maureen Stapleton's 1963 performance). The lone exception is Vanessa Williams, who is delightful as Rosie. She is the only reason to see this misguided remake. She's a true musical comedy talent! But she's not enough to save it. Watch the 1963 film version. It doesn't disappoint. This one, too often, does.
Hey, let's take the fun out of Bye Bye Birdie!, 10 October 2000
Author: johnm_001 from USA
This film should be filed in the why bother cabinet. Yes, you could say that it sticks closer to the Broadway version of the show, and you would be right. However, the Hollywood version of this Broadway show was always a lot more fun, with incredibly impressive musical numbers. This version, with alleged choreography by Ann Reinking, is just a big bore. The cast is generally not right for their roles, either. Jason Alexander is in fine voice, but he just isn't Albert, Chynna Phillips (looking more and more like Papa John, everyday), is too old. So was Ann-Margret in the 1963 version; but at least she had the energetic appeal of a 16 year old. Phillips comes off like she has iron poor blood. Tyne Daly, is too loud and annoying, to give Mae Peterson any real laughs or charm (see Maureen Stapleton's 1963 performance). The lone exception is Vanessa Williams, who is delightful as Rosie. She is the only reason to see this misguided remake. She's a true musical comedy talent! But she's not enough to save it. Watch the 1963 film version. It doesn't disappoint. This one, too often, does.
#45
Posted: 1/9/09 at 7:00am
I think the casting of Ann-Margret in the original film creates an interesting dynamic. As Phyllis once said to me, "You think she might actually f*** Birdie!"
The movie isn't the stage show, but it's not trying to be. It's a kitschy film, but I think it does a decent job of depicting how the sexuality of the younger generation was bursting to get free before the Kennedy assassination, the civil rights movement, and Vietnam changed the country forever.
The movie isn't the stage show, but it's not trying to be. It's a kitschy film, but I think it does a decent job of depicting how the sexuality of the younger generation was bursting to get free before the Kennedy assassination, the civil rights movement, and Vietnam changed the country forever.
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
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