Can We Put People Back in the Closet?- Page 6

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 1:58pm

"AND he's f**ked Anne Heche."

Who hasn't?

Oh wait - I thought he said "he's been f**ked BY Anne Heche."

Never mind.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 1:58pm

Well, robbo, come find out!

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:00pm

you want to lick my ****?

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:01pm

uh huh

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:03pm

are you just gonna stand me up again then send me a poor excuse for an apology PM?

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:04pm

oh, I will hurt you for that!! lol

I've never stood you up! Except to **** you!

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:06pm

and, to think, i wanted YOU to be my first!

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:07pm

Um. First what? You have firsts left?

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:08pm

ummm, no.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:13pm

*checks thread*
*Confirms Jerby's entrance is when thread becomes overtly sexual*
*checks off list*
*exits thread*

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:15pm

LMAO

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:17pm

oh, FYI, Jerby, I respect your opinion that you are "mostly" a top and bisexual.
Emphasis, however, on opinion.

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:18pm

wait. is that what he said? i thought he said that he "bottoms for lesbians."

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 12/7/05 at 2:19pm

Well, since everything can return to Bea Arthur, we definitely know which of the two of THEM would be doing the topping.

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:02am

i watched the full interview with swoopes on advocate newsmagazine on LOGO last night and she definitely states that, for her, being gay is a choice and that she was not born gay.

when the interviewer spoke of how "unpopular" her statement was going to be in the gay community and the potential backlash, sheryl replied that she expected to "get heat from both sides."

[DG]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:05am

I wish I could see the interview. I'm very confused by the complete 180 degree difference in her presented views.

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:10am

it was odd. she says that falling in love with her female coach was totally unexpected and just kind of happened. she said they had a really good friendship that became more and "she just happens to also be a woman."

the interviewer asked if she considered herself gay and sheryl said "yes."

then she made the statement about it being her choice.

[DG]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:15am

Which is completely opposite of what is presented in her written interviews. I wonder what she really thinks.

Ultimately, I tend to agree with Robbie that it shouldn't become a barrier between her and other gay people. I understand that it is a dangerous quote for those against gay rights to get ahold of, but ultimately, it IS only her truth - and that makes it hers to live and express.

It still confuses me, though.

[RobbO]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:24am

i was thinking about what robbie said the other day and i wondered how far was too far to support someone's "truth."

if a famous gay person came out and said they regretted being gay and that gays should not have the right to marry or tax benefits or a say in their partners treatment for a disease, etc. should we still support their truth?

Updated On: 12/13/05 at 11:24 AM

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:27am

I'm thinking it's really just about HOT SEX. Period.

[DayDreamer]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:29am

I think we should 'respect' their truth, but I don't necessarily feel I have to support it. I acknowledge that for some people, getting involved in a gay relationship is a choice. That's all fine and dandy. It's just sad the she's the one that decided to come out, and not someone who identifies themselves as gay and doesn't have to explain it.

[DG]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:34am

We had that, DD - her name is Martina And I like the idea of 'respect', just not necessarily support. I'm a little uncomfortable with the thought of just not allowing someone the experience of their own existence.

[DayDreamer]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 11:43am

Yeah... but Martina was in the 70's. Others have come out after they retired, I just wish other currently playing athletes (or at least one) would have the guts to come out as well.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 12:14pm

All I can say is again: I believe that we are all born homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, and what we realize we are, admit we are, act on what we are, understand what we are, etc. may or may not be in accordance.

Thus, I believe that Cheryl Swoopes was born either bisexual or homosexual, but how she came to discover, accept, identify with, etc her attraction for women is her own story.

[DG]

Posted: 12/13/05 at 12:16pm

jrb - an important part of your statement is where you begin - 'I believe'. And everyone's tale begins with that.