Catholic Church makes it clear they are anti-Harry Potter. — Page 3

JohnPopa... if I get kicked out of the movie theater ....That is too funny. I think I'll do it!

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I should make clear what I object to. I think the disapproval of Harry Potter books is ridiculous - I haven't read what the statement was, but I'll take your word for it.

What I object to is the invective and the tone of obvious contempt for my faith and my church that crops up at every opportunity - even on the "Do you believe in God" thread. I've got too many Irish ancestors martyred for that faith not to have the guts to speak up now.

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one thing i always hated about those damn harry potter books: all the damn witches.

and, d, is that all at once or one at a time?

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Justthefacts, I don't think anyone has bashed you faith, just the horrible institution that has built a dynasty with the blood of your ansestors. It is the "Catholic CHURCH" not Catholic's faith that is the problem.

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That is "Saint Thing" to you, Sister.

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St. Sueleen you ROCK! justthefacts,I too am of an Irish heritage a fact of which I am very proud. I have family in both Northern Ireland and in the South. My family has died on both sides of the border.

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I read somewhere once that more people have died on the planet in the name of (various) religion(s) than in all wars combined.....

The catholic church is bigoted towards me and my partner.............you can't have it both ways. You are damn right I am bigoted towards them.

any religion that:
1. raises one group of people up, yet keeps others down
2. keeps people in (mental) chains
3. tells people to kill people simply because their faith is different
4. Actively campaigns to deny equal rights to groups of people
5. wants to stick their nose in what science can or cannot explore so that people can live better lives
6. wants to tell everyone NOT in their faith whom to marry
7. will not be honest with teenagers about sex.......(ie rubbers will go a lot further protecting against AIDS than absinence.....simply because catholic kids WILL have sex no matter what the Nazi Pope thinks)
8. Refuses to clean up its own pedophile mess.


is worthy of me feeling bigoted towards them...DEAL WITH IT

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Updated On: 7/14/05 at 11:21 AM

I agree 100% Elphaba!

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The Catholic Church as an institution supports bigotry and hatred. It is not "bashing" to point this out. The Church takes stands, including, but not limited to, no birth control for married people, no sex at all outside of marriage, and within marriage only for procreation, no right to choice on abortion, and of course, us "intrinsically disordered and evil" faggots. Not to mention that the Church refuses to grant women equal status. How many deaths is the Church directly responsible for, not only in its various and many "crusades" but in its refusal to allow basic human dignity for whole groups of human beings?

We are "bashing" when we point these things out? Hardly, though that's sure the way to spin it...

How about a hand for those Holy Wars...

The Catholic Religion practices in Bigotry.

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Why am I NOT surprised? This Pope is even more conservative than the last one. Welcome to the world of the religious right, folks!

Pretty soon we'll be burning books

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Thank you, everyone, for responding to me. I respect your positions and the way you presented them to me, and I appreciate that you did address my feelings.

Elphaba, I didn't read the statement because that wasn't the issue for me when I wrote. In the instance of Harry Potter, I am more than willing to accede to your evaluation, and I said that.

I know I'm not going to change anybody's attitude about this, and really, I'm not trying. I just felt a need to say something. Basically, whatever you have to throw at my church -okay, here I am, you can throw it at me. I'm a Catholic. I am my faith. I am not ashamed of it. I'm not a great Catholic - maybe one day I'll be a better one. There is so much to love in this beautiful faith. It's almost impossible to explain why I felt I had to step out in front of what was being said.

Anyway, thanks again.

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ditto to what DGrant said....

and frankly you don't need to change anybodys attitude.....you have a right to what you believe in.It is not my thing, but who am I to say it's not yours?

But I will continue to question religions, governments, businesses, and anything else that feels it's their 'duty" to tell me how to live, and who to love....until the day I am dead.

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