Cindy Sheehan Sucks — Page 3

New York Times-Frank Rich article -August 21, 2005

"Specialist Sheehan was both literally and figuratively an Eagle Scout: a church group leader and honor student whose desire to serve his country drove him to enlist before 9/11, in 2000. He died with six other soldiers on a rescue mission in Sadr City on April 4, 2004, at the age of 24."

This is the man Cindy Sheehan raised. She raised a patriot. She raised a man who believed in serving and defending his country. She instilled in him a love and devotion to his country. And she wants to know why he had to die? What was the noble cause? I think she deserves an answer.

Updated On: 8/21/05 at 11:31 AM

I'd like to see the exact quote and source, too.

And if it has anything to do with a Don Feder column, I'll just roll my eyes. (Please, no need for an "On the other hand, Don Feder __________" lecture, Dr. Plum).

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aha--and, of course, conservatives are running with it Ratheresque because it is quite possibly the ONLY thing that could destroy Sheehan--paint her as a bigot.

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They can't find it?

That's what killed Peter Jennings.

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Plum says "Which is reason #5,437 why I hate Bush- his moronic policies regarding Israel only make his own War on Terror more difficult."

Bush has only agreed with what Sharon wants. Bush has said that the Jewish evacuation of Gaza was the right thing to do.

But it is the wrong thing to do! The Palestinians are working with Hammas, a terrorist organization. They have said that they will stop at nothing to see all Jews obliterated from Israel. That is definitely the wrong side to agree with.

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It just sounds incredibly possible that she is being set up with false quotes that she never made. I don't put anything past the Rove machine.

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Heck, I'd rather listen to some of the posters on here speak on TV rather than listen to Cindy Sheehan.

Jrb actor! Get a job in a political organization!

:0)

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Karl Rove is a proven liar. I don't think he's going to admit if he did make false statements.

To me, Cindy is merely the last straw before the camel snaps.

And Pingin, I guess this whole Cindy thing is sort of like the Wicked threads, they are there. If you don’t want to read them, don’t.

I guess my bottom line is, if this is the way she wants to grieve, let her. She’s not hurting anyone.

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There is absolutely no evidence that Cindy Sheehan hates Jews.

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I'm sure Fitzgerald is working on it. Better to get all the evidence together than to do things in a half-assed way. Right, Mr. President?

And PalJoey, I'm pretty sure that quote constitutes evidence. It isn't enough to bring on the hellhounds of the Anti-Defamation League, but it's enough to make me suspicious. If she really said those things (and I tend to believe she did), it at least indicates a pretty poor understanding of the very international policy she's criticizing.

some follow-up on the sheehan email, anti-semitism and protestations of innocence:
they hacked me, oh wait, no they just added stuff...or something

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Updated On: 8/24/05 at 09:28 AM

Pinguin - "Many people lost their children in this conflict."

And most of them who oppose the war are doing nothing but complaining at home or to friends or on message boards.

"The war is about the soldiers not their political parents, and telling people that her son died for Israel is hardly a tribute to her son."

Saying the war is about the soldiers is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever seen. When our country is involved in a war, then every citizen of this country is involved, whether directly or indirectly. The majority of this country chooses not to be directly involved and to ignore it, but that is their personal choice, it does not change the fact that the war is about all of us and how we are all put in a position to be victims of this war, not just the soldiers who fight on the front lines. Ask any of the families of 9/11 if they are not involved in the Iraq war in some way.

"How exciting and original."

Actually, the protest of camping out at Bush's ranch in Crawford in protest actually is more original and exciting than the standard peaceful ineffective protests we've witnessed thus far. Sheehan has accomplished one major thing and that is she has gotten national attention. Any anti-war protest with grieving family members of dead soldiers uses exploitation to a degree, but it does not discount the family's grief or their passion in any way.

Plum - "kind of like 19th-century Americans believed in a Manifest Destiny to settle the North American continent all the way to the Pacific coast, Indians be damned"

Except that Europeans killed off three times more Native Americans than American settlers, who had the idea ingrained in them of imperialist colonization from their original European countries.

"And Sheehan's tendency to leap to that conclusion leads me to leap to the conclusion that's she's probably an anti-Semite."

But that would be you leaping to conclusions, not anything based on fact. As jrb pointed out, it is possible to disagree with Israel's actions and not be an anti-Semite.

gothampc - "As usual, Ann Coulter gets it right."

Anyone who believes that is sick, racist, prejudiced, and cruel. Ann Coulter is nothing but a vile publicity whore who places more value in shock and money than citizens of this country. Her comments on morality and trolling for publicity is so ironic, it's funny. Too bad she'll never figure it out.

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Updated On: 8/24/05 at 10:08 AM