Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
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Joined: 12/31/69
#25re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 2:29pm
& nobody gives Miss Bianca any love!!!
(except me)
#26re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 2:34pmWhat are you trying to hide behind that rain bonnet? Your love?
#27re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 2:38pmerika, who's Cindy?
Wanting life but never knowing how
#28re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 2:42pm
Cinderella.
Ariel figures huge in the Princess line. My daughter has tons of stuff that features the big 6 (Belle, Cinderella, Aurora, Snow White, Jasmine, and Ariel).
I find it pretty distasteful that the only Disney women who are spunky fighters (Mulan, Pocahontas, and Lilo) are pretty much never represented as being role models. Just the stupid princesses.
#29re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:41pm
Well, let's be honest...Pocahontas is a bit of a floozy. That outfit? Not to mention that John Smith looks uncannily like a Chippendale dancer.
However, I'm in agreement. I think they should eradicate the whole "Disney Princess" thought and expand it to "Disney Heroine," including Esmeralda (my personal favorite), Mulan, Pocahontas, Meg, etc.
#30re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:43pm
I think you're on the right track jag2.
What about the Diznizzney Bitches line?
#31re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:44pmI've always thought it was racist that Pocohantas and Mulan get shoved aside.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#32re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:46pm
<- - - -has no idea who this Aurora person is.
*googles*
blueroses
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/18/04
#33re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:46pm
"What about the Diznizzney Bitches line?"
Please. We already have The Bratz.
#34re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:48pmlol
#35re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:49pmAurora is old school Disney soapy. Sleeping Beauty.
#36re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:54pmThanks, I saw a picture of her on google pictures and I still had no idea who she was, then I went to wikipedia. I haven't seen Sleeping Beauty or Snow White.
#37re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:54pm
Oh, heh. I put too much thought into that. I thought it was like "Aurora" or something, where a princess had a lesser-known call name.
soapguy, it's Sleeping Beauty.
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#38re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:56pmsoapy, watch Sleeping Beauty! It's a beautiful movie.
#39re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 3:57pmI need to catch up on some Disney.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#40re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 5:06pmi like her better as Briar Rose.
RetroBoy
Broadway Star Joined: 10/1/07
#41re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 5:16pm
POCAHONTAS is *not* a Disney embarrassment as someone posted. Why would they have bothered with a 10th Anniversary Special Edition of the film if they truly felt that way about the film. I think it's a beautiful film even though it's historically inaccurate but then so is LADY SINGS THE BLUES and that doesn't necessarily make it a bad film either.
Updated On: 12/1/07 at 05:16 PM
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#42re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 7:18pm
I wasn't going to say anything about this, but what the hell . . .
The man behind the gestation of POCAHONTAS is an old friend. When it was first being developed, he talked to the TinMan (who was a kindergarten teacher at the time) about what was being taught to elementary school kids about that part of American history. They really tried desperately to meld facts from history with the message they intended to give.
I think if you take the project on its own merits, it achieves quite a bit. If you want real history, go to the history books - but be prepared to sift through myriad perspectives with different agendas. This is a Disney animated film - take it as such.
#43re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 7:19pmI remember singing "colors of the wind" in 5th grade graduation...memories.
#44re: Disney Barely Represents Pocahontas
Posted: 12/1/07 at 7:22pm
"I think if you take the project on its own merits, it achieves quite a bit."
I concur, DG. It's a beautifully made film, not a history lesson. In fact, the tagline for the movie was "An American Legend Comes To Life." Key word: Legend!
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